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Old 12-03-2017, 03:44 PM   #89
aron
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Default Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

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The bible is about Christ and the church (Ephesians 5). The church is the people, the church is us.
When Witness Lee died, we were told that one era of human history had ended, and another had begun. Ephesians 5 was not cited. In fact, no verses were cited. And nobody asked for any. Because, "It's the church". Leaders made pronouncement from the dias, and that was it. If verses were given, wonderful. If they were ignored, hey, what are you going to do? It's the church.

You see, "It's the church" replaced "Christ and the church", which had replaced Christ. Now "Christ" was whatever church leaders needed. If it was a porpoise skin or the silver sockets of the ark, so be it. And "Christ" was to "be one" with leadership. Even if leadership was wrong, it was right. Even if the Bible was suborned, "It's the church". Don't ask questions, because a question mark is in the shape of a serpent.

(So if the Maximum Brother, holding God's oracle, said that the tree planted by the streams of water, bearing fruit in season, whose leaf would never wither (Psa 1:3), was vanity, because "nobody can keep the law", we all sat there dumb in the King-dumb. Because God's oracle had spoken. Forget the Bible, Lee said - it's written by sinners. Funny how he never tried that argument with Isaiah or Jeremiah. Or did he?)

In this way, the LSM/lc leaders put the same death-vise on us that they tried to put on Martin Luther and John Wesley. Don't go against the church. "By so little you despise the sacrements, Mr. Wesley?", they asked, when he began to preach faith in Jesus Christ. But Luther and Wesley knew - our faith is not in the church.

And the solution is simple. Jesus told the disciples that he would build His church. Not Witness Lee's church, not your church or the RCC. It is His purview, not yours. Your purview as the Bride is to watch your husband, not to watch yourself. "I sit a queen" is too close to us. Too close! ~Rev 18:7. We have too many examples, to be fooled yet again.

No, the Bible is about Christ. If He builds His church, and he promised, then we rejoice. But it is His church. His Body. Not ours. It is all about Christ. If you leave Christ you leave safety.

Regarding the "us", only Christ can pray before the Father, and say "us", and the Father hears. Our prayer on earth has reality only as it matches that of the Great High Priest in heaven. He alone can say "us" and it stands. Your "us" or mine won't make it. Only Christ can pray there. That is the only "us" that matters - the one Jesus Christ speaks before the Father's throne. Your religious association is not the "us" that God seeks. Sorry. Be joined to Christ and live. It is His "us" that holds. Not yours.

The scene in the opening of John's 'Revelation' is too clear. Only Christ walks among the lampstands. Only Christ. And they are His lampstands. Not yours or mine. Hands off.
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