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Originally Posted by Igzy
Natural? What decides something is natural? Like I said, it's either of the Spirit or it isn't. If it is it's okay; if isn't it is not. What does "natural constitution" have to do with anything?
Again, this is just how Lee placed doubt in everyone's minds about the gifts, abilities and insights God has given them. If Lee didn't like your approach, he could always just accuse you of being "natural."
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The Subjective Christ was a trojan horse, whereby Lee's subjectivity could overwhelm yours. Instead of believing that God raised Jesus from the dead, you believed that Lee was "spiritual" or "mystical" and you were "soulish" or "natural".
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Originally Posted by Weighingin
I was trying to express that in hearing this teaching, it still seemed to be that the natural man was doing a lot of the functions.
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Then, when we observed the supposed Spiritual Man clearly violating his own stated precepts in diverting $$ for arguably carnal son #1, or installing admittedly carnal son #2 as The Office at LSM, we were taught that spirituality was to submit quietly and to ignore the obvious. If we mentioned what we saw, that was Rebellion, which was a heinous sin before God. That was being a Natural Man.
Thus did the Ministry of the Age impose a set of shifting rules to it's own benefit. The key was the initial point where you accepted their subjective experience as your objective, ageed-upon reality. Then, the game was on.
Back to the clippings: in one, RG states that all believers in one city should meet together as the church in that city. In the next sentence, he says that he doesn't mean that all the believers in Houston should meet in his church! Of course not! He says something categorical, then in the next breath denies the obvious corollary to his categorical "truth". Everything in service of the delusion.
If you want another example, "We don't care for right and wrong; we care for [the subjective experience of] 'life'". The Spirtual Man can sin, and his minions only care that he is happy. Don't let the Big Boss lose face. As long as he is happy, we are happy. In the LC this is considered "life"; this is their "spiritual" yardstick. This points to a strong delusion at work.
The objective fact of the Christian faith is that God has raised Jesus from the dead and given him glory and dominion, and the name which is above every name, in heaven, on earth, and under the earth; both in this age and that which is to come. Don't let someone's subjectivity overwhelm your God-given faith. If you're lured to chase the will o'the wisp of your feelings, you may find yourself chasing someone else's feelings instead. A disastrous course.