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Old 08-12-2016, 06:43 AM   #884
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Default Re: How Much To Throw Out?

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Originally Posted by HERn View Post
WL and now the false teachers known as the being-blended-brothers (or co-workers), elders within the LCs, and serving ones on the campuses .... falsely state that the Father is the source or origin of the divine life, the Son is the course or the path through which we receive the divine life, and the Spirit is the flow or the divine life itself that reaches man. I believe Satan has used WL to exalt the essence of God (His divine life) over the distinct Persons of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). WL effectively separated the essence of God from the persons of God. To me the practical application of this false teaching is that it caused me to focus my worship and attention on the essence of God (divine life) rather than the Persons of God who eternally and individually exist as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.]
One passage that helped expose WL's failed attempt to merge the distinct persons of the Trinity was the throne scene in Revelation 1. There are greetings given. And these greetings are from different persons. Greetings from "A", and from "B" and from "C". How was anyone supposed to read that A = B = C?

We all know the verses:

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John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from Him who is and was and is to come, and from the sevenfold Spirit before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
There are three instances of "from" here. Grace and peace to you from "A" and from "B" and from "C". What doctrine erases this clear distinction? 1 Cor 15:45(b) "The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" and John 1:14 "The Word became flesh"? To me, in attempting this, you end up with a silly Bible. You get your secret decoder ring from verses thus-and-such, then you take your secret decoder ring and tell all and sundry that the rest of the Bible is saying something it is plainly not. Hot becomes cold and up becomes down and three persons become one person. Because the decoder ring says so.

So Jesus is the one sitting on the throne, and is also the one walking in front of the throne in the midst of the golden lampstands, and is also the seven flames burning on the lampstands. Right? And since the church is the Body of Christ, then the seven churches in Asia are also Jesus. And since the angels are ministering spirits, and since Jesus became a life-giving Spirit, and Ephesians clearly tell us there is only one Spirit, then the seven angels to the seven Asian churches are also Jesus. Should I stop now, or do we want to keep going? What level of absurdity does it take to make us pause?

How about, the Spirit is speaking to the churches, so Jesus (the Spirit) is speaking to Jesus (the Body of Christ), and furthermore since the speaking is the Word (and is spirit and life, John 6:63), the speaking is also Jesus the Word of God made flesh. Therefore Jesus is delivering Jesus to Jesus. Gee, no wonder it says, "Let him who has ears to hear what the Spirit is speaking to the churches." Without WL's decoder ring, how could we ever properly understand this? Finally someone came along and cut straight the word for us!

(p.s. Google "Witness Lee proper" sometime. You'll learn there is a proper church life, a proper consecration, a proper aggressiveness, a proper spiritual life, and a proper expression of the Body of Christ. And that's just from the first seven hits.)
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