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Old 09-15-2017, 07:30 AM   #21
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Scientists are Human Too

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This thread is based on the false proposition that someone claimed that science is anything other than a fallible human endeavor. To the best of my recollection that didn't happen.
No, Post #1 clearly states that this thread is based on the idea that scientists have human biases just like everyone else.

"However research in psychology shows that scientists are prone to the same cognitive biases as anyone else." (Post #1)

"A number of articles about the various cognitive biases affecting science can be found here:" (Post #1)

Scientists recognize the similarity between what they do and what ancient religious leaders did. This is discussed in the book Sapiens.

"What is science really about? Some would say fact, evidence, observations, knowledge. But actually science is also about belief." (Post #1)

"Top 10 Reasons Science Is Another Religion" (Post #1)

For example, the religious leaders generally controlled very accurate calendars as a result of precise measurements of stars with charts and various tools for measuring astronomical movements. Today that would fall in the realm of science. Religious leaders in Judaism were responsible for food safety, today scientists. They were responsible for health issues, today scientists. Many of their laws were scientifically based (precise way in which a census is to be done using copper coins to avoid a plague) would be similar to an edict from the CDC today.

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What has happened is that apologists for Witness Lee's Local Church claim that it is somehow literally the divine "body of Christ". I would suggest to you that that proposition is unsupportable. It is the disparity between the realities of typical group behavior manifest in the Local Church Movement [LCM] and the group's claims of special status with God that produces disillusionment with the movement. Evangelical misunderstands science. Whether that misunderstanding was caused by the LCM or part of a mindset that led him to join the group in the first place, it's evident in the position he has taken on this thread.
Sorry, I missed that, what post are you referring to?
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