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Originally Posted by JJ
evidence the “high gospel” of the LC isn’t so high after all.
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If it were so, there should be some issue: if all you have to do is "masticate the processed and consummated Triune God" and then you "become God in life and nature (but not in the Godhead)" there should be some indicators along the way. Evidences, as JJ calls them.
Where is the transformation? Where is the perfecting? We see endless meetings, trainings, conferences. Where is the issue in human living?
When the supposed Guru starts dunning the flock to bankroll his son's motor home business, where is the transformation? When he puts the other, admittedly "unspiritual" son in charge of business operations, keeps him there even after this steamrolls the flock and the son's caught repeatedly in compromising situations with female parishioners, where's the transformation? Instead of repentance and transparency we got "fermentation of the present rebellion".
Theology doesn't matter if your behavior's bad. Jesus told the disciples of John, "Tell John what you see - the sick are healed, the dead raised, and the poor have the gospel preached to them". He didn't say, "Tell John of the theology we are teaching here." The proof is in the pudding and the LC pudding stinks.
The Lord Jesus gave plenty of evidence that he was God's Messiah. Up to and including the resurrection from the dead, and the out-poured Spirit "which you now see and hear" (Acts 2:33). Not conferences, trainings, booklets for sale. Real, actual lives changed. I don't see any more of that in the LC than in "poor, poor, Christianity". And I see as much weird stuff in the LC as in "degraded Christianity". So the theology doesn't cut it.