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Originally Posted by Nell
I never heard pleading or "discussion". What I heard was "take it or leave...you rebel."
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I think that you are correct that we are mostly on the same page. And my point was never to diminish anything about the wanton leadership of the LC, but to point to the kind of leadership that Paul displayed (as demonstrated by the first letter to the Corinthians). I only bring it up because the way you quoted me then responded with that one sentence seemed to imply that I had somehow defended the LC leadership rather than pointed to an alternative to their errant ways. I know you didn't mean that. But to just read it (as someone else) I felt it needed clarification.
But I think that the true leadership of character and wisdom of the gifts provided to the church never significantly diminishes. It may seem less necessary to us because we might find ourselves less lacking each time we return to them. But I suspect that if we were to decide they were no longer necessary to us, we might soon find ourselves in greater need of them than we suspect.
Just an observation based on the results of people who have become removed from any kind of structure of submission and need. The leadership of the LC is a massive example. But look at other Christian leaders over the past years. Thinking that any of us have risen above the need for others to shepherd us, teach us, etc., is the road to failure.