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Thank you OBW and Trapped for your comments. First, I would like to tackle both recent comments and explain why I give the labels such as "Satanic" to Lee ministry.After this post, I will pretty much explain my stance, and then we can move on. You can agree or disagree, its your choice. I understand a lot of people disagree with me, and you have the complete freedom of will to contest or not with my words. Glad there is no "Forum Speaker Of The Age" here and we all have to agree and complete align with the speaking of that individual . Glad to have a discussion with all of you, I appreciate you all!

Let us look at Satan in the bible, specifically when Jesus is tempted after his fasting in the wilderness. Satan approaches Jesus and attempts to pull him from God. Satan tries to utilize certain portions of scripture to his advantage in his Satanic ambition. So, what is the goal of Satan in this portion of scripture? He wants to get Jesus to worship him and bow down to him. He wants to pull the son of God away from God and separate him from the Lord. He tempts him with the offerings of the word in his possession and even tries to use the word of God to try to entrap Jesus and pull him from the God.

Satan says
“If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” 4 But he answered, “It is written,
“‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple 6 and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, “‘He will command his angels concerning you,’
and
“‘On their hands they will bear you up,
lest you strike your foot against a stone.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written,
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve.’”
11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him.


Satan is being tricky and devious, he is a twisted grocery shopper, plucking scripture at his own perceived discretion, to fulfill his destructive and Satanic ambition. Satan is attempting to pit scripture against other scripture, in attempt to set fate in his favor. So how does Jesus’ counter Satan and shut down his evil plans? Jesus expands on the teachings of the word of God and reveals that “You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.”, “You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve’”.

So, when I say Lee ministry/doctrine is Satanic, it is because I see it matches the characteristics/nature of Satan, as shown in the bible. Witness Lee tries to pit portions of scripture against each other, such as degrading the mercy of God and pitting them against Paul in Ephesians chapter 1. Or trying to make James seem like is uplifting the Mosaic law in his epistle and saying, “Paul belittled the law and James uplifted”. While Paul belittled ceremonial law and uplifted the moral law/commandments, just as James. Witness Lee belittles the fear of God and always pits it against the concept of “enjoying Christ” which does not make sense (as Trapped pointed out). Then there are the teachings on morals/ethics, and dealing with sin, which is a whole mess. There are many examples I can give on Witness Lee pitting scripture against each other and twisting scripture to make them look bad and belittle them. Witness Lee does all these things because he does not like the entirety of the word of God regarding the practice of the Christian life. I am pretty sure Satan was quite disappointed when Jesus brought up scripture that basically debunked Satan attempts in pulling Jesus from God. Satan does not like much scripture in the word of God, because there is much scripture that goes against his destructive ambitions that goes against the will of God.

Lee, just like Satan, does not like much scripture in the word of God, because it is a threat to his vainglorious, SATANIC, domineering, and destructive ambition. So, when I say Lee has a Satanic doctrine/ministry, I am trying to say that his ministry aims to corrupt and destroy much of the word of God, to preserve his own corrupted ambition. Just as Satan tried to make Jesus forsake much of the word of God, so that he can get Jesus to fulfill his evil agenda that plagues mankind. Jesus Christ put Satan to shame, and the devil fled, and the angels came to him to minister him. Witness Lee ministry is Satanic in nature, in the sense of forsaking much of the word of God for its own destructive agenda/ambition. The Lords Recovery culture, practices, teachings, are more important to them than the entire composition of the word of God. As following the word of God as commanded, would in fact destroy their corrupted church life practices.

Witness Lee ministry kept in full, pulls their followers away from God and closer to Satan. Just as Satan tries to pull the son of God closer to him, even using carefully selected scripture to seduce Jesus. Satan aims to corrupt the body of Christ in every way he can. The most effective method for Satan is to spread teachings and doctrines, and twisting of scripture, that aim to forsake portions of the word of God. Extreme examples of this are Muslims and Mormons, I mean combine those two, and you have about over 1.8 billion people mislead by Satan. Its how crazy how one man such as Muhammad can result in billions of people being misled. Witness Lee doctrine is a less extreme of this, but nonetheless, his ministry is a corruption of Satan that aims to pull people away from much of the truth. Catholic church is another huge example, just look at that religious organization. I am not saying people in this group is evil like Satan (well most aren’t), but the nature of the doctrine of the LR, is corrupted much by Satan and pulls LR members farther away from God.

Was Jesus cherry picking in Matthew 4, OBW, or just telling the plain truth? The answer is clear to that question (plain truth). Brother regarding the bible teaching, on keeping the commandments/law, it is clear as day. The idea that the law was never intended or meant to be kept but only exposed and that God does not want us to keep his commandments, and just “enjoy him”, is just a complete Satanic lie. I mean the context is as clear as it gets, if one read the entire chapters of the verse I quoted, it is even going to be clearer. The best example of cherry picking I can think of is one of Steve Isitt threads titled “God sees no sin Israel”. It is centered around a saint Steve came across, and she said just as God did not see sin in Israel (Numbers 23), she will not see sin in the church life. This is what I consider out of context cherry picking, just used to fortify a blind narrative. God most definitely saw sin in Israel, as anyone can see reading through the bible. In fact, they paid a heavy price for their sin. To be honest, I could have quoted much more scripture, its as clear as day, as you read the bible, we are to keep his commandments.

The LR is not Satan’s closes minion or his greatest corruption, they are just one of many religious groups out there that, stray far from much of the word of God, in many different areas/circumstances. There are plenty of groups out there both big and small, that are Satanic, regarding forsaking of God’s word, as I illustrated from Matthew 4. The LR is small scale compared to the RCC for example, regarding Satanic corruption, so they are not all the worst when it comes to this. So, I think this settles my stance, and a more detailed explanation of why I say what I say in regard to the “Satanic” labels. We can move on to the topic of the thread more, as Untohim requested.