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Covert · 05-14-2021, 01:07 PM

I meant an elder is a top goon in regards to the relative LC population. The people higher than elders are coworkers. Elders compared to the general LC population are a small percentage and coworkers much more so. So in my eyes I see them as top level goons relative to the LC population as a whole. You can find many ordinary members who is a witness lee goon and will abide by his ministry from word to word even without having elder-ship. I was just trying to say an elder are a small percentage of men in the lords recovery who are appointed elder-ship because they are witness lee goons.

The only thing I can think of elders being remotely close to "cold" or "lukewarm" to witness lee ministry are elders who joined the local churches before witness lee put fourth his agenda to domineer over all churches starting from the Max Rappaport era. I am assuming these old school elders are dead and or replaced by witness lee obsequious sycophants in the modern day. I have a really hard time believing that contemporary candidates for elder-ship will not even be considered for selection by the coworkers without displaying blind loyalty to witness lee ministry. I know the co-workers are afraid of storms so they don't want brothers taking leadership positions who seem to have the slightest concerning amount of hesitation and dissension of witness lee ministry.

I am sure gonna take your words that you meet some elders who are not so extreme to witness lee ministry, but In my experience and many others, elders are elders because of loyalty to witness lee. It is why witness lee replaced all the elders in Detroit in the 1970s and perhaps many other places because he wanted elders "appointed and approved by him" and not elders who he was afraid wont abide by his every word.

Elders= small percentage of brothers in the lords recovery relative to the whole LC population, who are then selected for elder-ship by the coworkers (as goon as it gets) based on their utmost loyalty to witness lee ministry.

This is why I refereed to elders as "top level goons". The term top level goons is not exclusive to leading elders who are very close to co-workers. Just a term to describe a group of men who hold a leadership position that is held relatively few as a whole in this cult, simply because of their demonstration of loyalty towards witness lee.

Apologize if I felt like I repeated my self lots of times, I just wanted to get my point across.

05-14-2021, 01:07 PM	#14
Covert Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 63	Re: Is it Possible to Have Genuine Fellowship with an Absolute Brother? I meant an elder is a top goon in regards to the relative LC population. The people higher than elders are coworkers. Elders compared to the general LC population are a small percentage and coworkers much more so. So in my eyes I see them as top level goons relative to the LC population as a whole. You can find many ordinary members who is a witness lee goon and will abide by his ministry from word to word even without having elder-ship. I was just trying to say an elder are a small percentage of men in the lords recovery who are appointed elder-ship because they are witness lee goons. The only thing I can think of elders being remotely close to "cold" or "lukewarm" to witness lee ministry are elders who joined the local churches before witness lee put fourth his agenda to domineer over all churches starting from the Max Rappaport era. I am assuming these old school elders are dead and or replaced by witness lee obsequious sycophants in the modern day. I have a really hard time believing that contemporary candidates for elder-ship will not even be considered for selection by the coworkers without displaying blind loyalty to witness lee ministry. I know the co-workers are afraid of storms so they don't want brothers taking leadership positions who seem to have the slightest concerning amount of hesitation and dissension of witness lee ministry. I am sure gonna take your words that you meet some elders who are not so extreme to witness lee ministry, but In my experience and many others, elders are elders because of loyalty to witness lee. It is why witness lee replaced all the elders in Detroit in the 1970s and perhaps many other places because he wanted elders "appointed and approved by him" and not elders who he was afraid wont abide by his every word. Elders= small percentage of brothers in the lords recovery relative to the whole LC population, who are then selected for elder-ship by the coworkers (as goon as it gets) based on their utmost loyalty to witness lee ministry. This is why I refereed to elders as "top level goons". The term top level goons is not exclusive to leading elders who are very close to co-workers. Just a term to describe a group of men who hold a leadership position that is held relatively few as a whole in this cult, simply because of their demonstration of loyalty towards witness lee. Apologize if I felt like I repeated my self lots of times, I just wanted to get my point across.