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03-02-2021, 09:11 AM

You want to know the funny part of all this authority nonsense? Is that witness Lee has writings upon writings on the "qualifications" of an ideal deputy authority. If you were to read those writings on "deputy authority", you will realize that hardly anyone fits his description. In fact the current lords in Anaheim are the very people witness Lee says he wouldn't consider to be deputy authority at all. Just look at the ambitious Benson Phillips and his path of tear and destruction to achieve his dream of controlling the ministry in the palm of his hands. Ron kangas is the most insecure, power hungry, deceiving, and desperate power clinging man in the recovery.

Do you know one person I think of who I would even remotely trust in having such power and control- John Ingalls. Ingalls was meek, kind, understanding, devoid of pride, spoke in truth, did not lord over people. He was the sweetest man and as HERn quoted dear brother Ohio (come back brother Ohio)- the race to authority in the local churches makes Bullies out of brothers. Men like ingalls are torn apart and thrown to the side if they wish to grow in leadership while maintaining heir character. The authority figures in the recovery, this mainly is towards the coworkers but can apply to leading elders, chip away lots of attributes of a Christ living of a man to get where they are. If one is to abide by witness Lee teachings on what a brother should do in this situation and how he should liven and act- they will end up with this adulteration of inner self that is mixed with Lee doctrine and true teachings of Christ. Do you guys remember the portion of Lee life study of Colossians that was on the front page of this forum some days ago? How he said Christ does not want us to be humble, good, righteous, honest etc but to live as Christ/ God man. But he literally just described the very man he claims he wants the saints to be...... When you have this adulteration of scripture and twisted doctrine, imagine the things that can ensue. Imagine a leadership that is formed based on this adulteration...... Well we see it now and have seen it before, through all the "storms". Honestly if people like John Ingalls were the leaders of the recovery then the local churches wouldn't be in the disgusting mess they are in now.

Ron Kangas always liked to quote book of numbers for when "storms" come by and that's quite funny. He always trys to paint this image of him being a deputy authority like Moses. Well to the break the news Ron, you are nothing like Moses. You are insecure, power hungry, bear false witness against your brother, deciever, adulteraror of truth, and a man that domineers over those under him and rulen with an irongrip of fear and false pretense. To be as honest possible Ron, you are much more of a Saul then Moses. At least Saul was annointed by God, while you are just a man who got to where you were by appealing to other man. You are a man that lives to satisfy other man (this is the curse of a co-worker and elder in the recovery, to kowtow to man and abide by satisfaction of man).

Ron Kangas- A man who lives a heart of Saul. Never was a Moses and never will be a Moses. I'm sorry Ron but I'm judging you based on your actions, you have flaws that many men have and that is why it is better to admit and submit to your unrighteousness like Judah rather than be conceited in your position and go mad in power like Saul.

John Ingalls- A man who actually was like Moses, who spoke the truth in love and was torn apart by men with no love for good or affection ( 2 Timothy 3). Ingalls was a man of life and the coworkers in support of Philip Lee were those who hated "good" and clung to what is evil (the complete opposite and violated of Romans 12:9).

Hebrews 4:12, Jeremiah 17:10, Matthew 12:36 ( these verses should be a consideration for all men in positions of Authority and anyone really, but especially for those in authority.

People mess up and I'm assuming that the blended wish things could have been different, especially if it was anyone else but Philip Lee, things would not have gone so bad at all. But I believe Philip Lee was a test for all the authorities in Anaheim at the time and they failed miserably. Do not repeat the same Mistake, and for heaven's sake leave John Ingalls alone from slander. He is dead and was the sweetest man who acted as a man of God not a man who clung to evil based on adulterated teachings of doctrine and scripture. Find someone else for your punching bag. LEAVE INGALLS ALONE!

I might have more to say but at this point I think I am done for now

Z9, A man born, raised, and currently residing in the eastern seaboard of the USA.

03-02-2021, 09:11 AM	#58
Z9 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's going on in OKC? You want to know the funny part of all this authority nonsense? Is that witness Lee has writings upon writings on the "qualifications" of an ideal deputy authority. If you were to read those writings on "deputy authority", you will realize that hardly anyone fits his description. In fact the current lords in Anaheim are the very people witness Lee says he wouldn't consider to be deputy authority at all. Just look at the ambitious Benson Phillips and his path of tear and destruction to achieve his dream of controlling the ministry in the palm of his hands. Ron kangas is the most insecure, power hungry, deceiving, and desperate power clinging man in the recovery. Do you know one person I think of who I would even remotely trust in having such power and control- John Ingalls. Ingalls was meek, kind, understanding, devoid of pride, spoke in truth, did not lord over people. He was the sweetest man and as HERn quoted dear brother Ohio (come back brother Ohio)- the race to authority in the local churches makes Bullies out of brothers. Men like ingalls are torn apart and thrown to the side if they wish to grow in leadership while maintaining heir character. The authority figures in the recovery, this mainly is towards the coworkers but can apply to leading elders, chip away lots of attributes of a Christ living of a man to get where they are. If one is to abide by witness Lee teachings on what a brother should do in this situation and how he should liven and act- they will end up with this adulteration of inner self that is mixed with Lee doctrine and true teachings of Christ. Do you guys remember the portion of Lee life study of Colossians that was on the front page of this forum some days ago? How he said Christ does not want us to be humble, good, righteous, honest etc but to live as Christ/ God man. But he literally just described the very man he claims he wants the saints to be...... When you have this adulteration of scripture and twisted doctrine, imagine the things that can ensue. Imagine a leadership that is formed based on this adulteration...... Well we see it now and have seen it before, through all the "storms". Honestly if people like John Ingalls were the leaders of the recovery then the local churches wouldn't be in the disgusting mess they are in now. Ron Kangas always liked to quote book of numbers for when "storms" come by and that's quite funny. He always trys to paint this image of him being a deputy authority like Moses. Well to the break the news Ron, you are nothing like Moses. You are insecure, power hungry, bear false witness against your brother, deciever, adulteraror of truth, and a man that domineers over those under him and rulen with an irongrip of fear and false pretense. To be as honest possible Ron, you are much more of a Saul then Moses. At least Saul was annointed by God, while you are just a man who got to where you were by appealing to other man. You are a man that lives to satisfy other man (this is the curse of a co-worker and elder in the recovery, to kowtow to man and abide by satisfaction of man). Ron Kangas- A man who lives a heart of Saul. Never was a Moses and never will be a Moses. I'm sorry Ron but I'm judging you based on your actions, you have flaws that many men have and that is why it is better to admit and submit to your unrighteousness like Judah rather than be conceited in your position and go mad in power like Saul. John Ingalls- A man who actually was like Moses, who spoke the truth in love and was torn apart by men with no love for good or affection ( 2 Timothy 3). Ingalls was a man of life and the coworkers in support of Philip Lee were those who hated "good" and clung to what is evil (the complete opposite and violated of Romans 12:9). Hebrews 4:12, Jeremiah 17:10, Matthew 12:36 ( these verses should be a consideration for all men in positions of Authority and anyone really, but especially for those in authority. People mess up and I'm assuming that the blended wish things could have been different, especially if it was anyone else but Philip Lee, things would not have gone so bad at all. But I believe Philip Lee was a test for all the authorities in Anaheim at the time and they failed miserably. Do not repeat the same Mistake, and for heaven's sake leave John Ingalls alone from slander. He is dead and was the sweetest man who acted as a man of God not a man who clung to evil based on adulterated teachings of doctrine and scripture. Find someone else for your punching bag. LEAVE INGALLS ALONE! I might have more to say but at this point I think I am done for now Z9, A man born, raised, and currently residing in the eastern seaboard of the USA.