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Originally Posted by Trapped
this story in Genesis is a critical one to get right, especially for anyone who's had instruction by WL about it. I know there have been a few potshots in your direction, but understanding the word divided rightly is important
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I apologise for taking any gratuitous swipes at passersby, as the goal was to discuss and rightly divide the word. We have this phrase used by Paul twice, and translated variously. In the LSM it was called "God's economy" and it occupied a central spot in their thinking and practices. I've gone over this at length, using Paul's letters, and Acts, to show a focus of his activities among the churches of the gentiles (his term per Rom 16:4), and how that lined with Jesus' teachings, as well as James, John and Peter.
WL's "Two Trees" motif was central to his "God's economy" platform, which led us to the "Don't think, just eat that tree!" mantra. And I've noted a stress on a vague amorphous thing called "life" in the LC. It's one of their central 'mystical' terms, meaning it can be whatever MOTA & Minions want. As in, "I don't have life" to do something, including to pay attention to the Bible, which when ignored they call "dead letters". I kid you not, this is how their "life" rules the LC.
And I wrote before that in John's gospel, "Life" is altogether tied with and dependent on "Light". My point was that the LC leadership hates the light, and I asked, then what's this "Life" they pursue? I repeat my points:
~In reading John 1, we see how many intertwined references there are to "light" and "life". They're inseparable, in John's eyes. This relational theme, once introduced, then continues throughout John's works. With light is obedience, with obedience is life.
~The light of the gospel once came to me: God loved me, and sent his Only Begotten Son Jesus to be my Saviour. This information, derived from the text of Scripture, changed my life. The light of God's sending and redeeming love flooded my heart. The light changes us, changes our conception of the world we live in. When you say, "Jesus is Lord" you're giving someone information that can change them forever. That's what John was doing: "God loved us so much, that He sent His Son..."
~The only reason we independently know any LC history is because of a tiny, tiny opening - when WL said, "We should find out what happened" to those who left. Let's reconcile, he said, forgive one another... Paul's "ministry of reconciliation" etc... Steve Isitt decided to obey the directive from the pulpit, and find out what happened. When he did, and presented his findings,
per WL's directive, how did LC leaders, locally and regionally, react to the light? They were horrified! Even now, DCP won't mention Timothy's role in Daystar. They won't mention Philip, and expose what a sham WL's "Fermentation" book is. My point is that they hate the light. So I ask, how can they have the life? It's probably not coincidence that vampire expert Walter Martin keyed in on WL. I heard that Count Dracula also hated the light.
When we talk about "Life" in context of WL's oeuvre, we should mention all this. The word of Scripture demands it. Just like with Bill Freeman's Subjective Christ and his wife Patsy's machinations. You can't tout one, and pretend the other doesn't exist. I wasn't trolling
StG at all, but strongly felt that the point needs to be made. Again, I apologise if it seems unpleasant or antagonistic. This forum is called LC "Discussions" for a reason, because they're needed: discussions bring more light, and we need the light.
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"I’ve studied the cults now since 1950. I’ve learned many thing about them. One of the things I’ve learned about them and it’s been very, very profitable, is that the cults exceed most accurately and powerfully when they imitate the church most closely. The closer they look like us, the worse the deception. The closer they can get to our vocabulary, carry our bible, mention the name of Jesus and talk the lingo of Christianity, the more dangerous they become.
You don’t need anybody to put a red flag out when somebody gets up and teaches Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam because you know you’re dealing with non-Christian religions. But if somebody gets up and says “I agree with Christianity, I believe in Jesus Christ”, and then you say “oh that’s wonderful!” And you take that person on faith, going no further when the person really doesn’t believe what the gospel says at all, they’re just using the language. At that point you're in great danger of deception. Deception comes when you think you're believing what’s right when in reality, you're being misled and deceived.”
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https://churchwatchcentral.com/2016/...-wolves-cults/