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Trapped · 02-09-2021, 02:20 PM

Awoken,

I couldn't agree with you MORE. I've posted about this in some other threads here somewhere, but the TOTKOGAE is described in three ways:

1) pleasant to the sight,
2) good for food, and
3) makes you like God.

No idea how Lee got "evil" from any of that. The Bible very clearly says "the wages of sin is death", in other words, death is our wages, our punishment for sin. And that's exactly what Adam and Eve got. Death as punishment. Their punishment was being cut off from the tree of life so they would not live forever, i.e. die.

The TOTKOGAE was not death, or evil, or bad, or anything Lee claims it is.

Totally agree with you about the Hebrews verse. Mature believers discern between good and evil! Lee liked to say that God "doesn't care" about good/evil, or right/wrong, but if you think about it.....if you forbid something, it usually doesn't mean that you forbid it because you "don't care" about it, but rather the opposite. Because you care about it a lot. Like premature sex, or a rare artifact, or a dangerous weapon. Those things are forbidden from touching at certain times not because we "don't care" but because we DO care.

Not only that, in Corinthians Paul gets on their case for not having anyone wise enough to judge a dispute and tells us that we will judge angels as well as the earth. Do you think we need to be able to discern good and evil in order to do that? YEAH!

Seriously, Awoken, your two cents for the day is worth more like a million dollars. There are numerous twisted and fear-based teachings from the ministry just in these 1-2 chapters in Genesis alone, and you have managed to untangle them all and present it more truthfully, scripturally, and clearly than Witness Lee EVER DID. This is one of the big ones that qualifies the local churches to be characterized as an abusive church. They use this false teaching often to control the behavior, emotions, and thoughts of their members.

They say "good and evil are on the same tree" and that we "don't care" about either of them. Well, that's what we would call "calling good evil and calling evil good". They are, somehow, unbelievably, associating good and evil with each other, grouping them together. What kind of insane church does that?!

Trapped

02-09-2021, 02:20 PM	#316
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: What is the Lord's economy? Awoken, I couldn't agree with you MORE. I've posted about this in some other threads here somewhere, but the TOTKOGAE is described in three ways: 1) pleasant to the sight, 2) good for food, and 3) makes you like God. No idea how Lee got "evil" from any of that. The Bible very clearly says "the wages of sin is death", in other words, death is our wages, our punishment for sin. And that's exactly what Adam and Eve got. Death as punishment. Their punishment was being cut off from the tree of life so they would not live forever, i.e. die. The TOTKOGAE was not death, or evil, or bad, or anything Lee claims it is. Totally agree with you about the Hebrews verse. Mature believers discern between good and evil! Lee liked to say that God "doesn't care" about good/evil, or right/wrong, but if you think about it.....if you forbid something, it usually doesn't mean that you forbid it because you "don't care" about it, but rather the opposite. Because you care about it a lot. Like premature sex, or a rare artifact, or a dangerous weapon. Those things are forbidden from touching at certain times not because we "don't care" but because we DO care. Not only that, in Corinthians Paul gets on their case for not having anyone wise enough to judge a dispute and tells us that we will judge angels as well as the earth. Do you think we need to be able to discern good and evil in order to do that? YEAH! Seriously, Awoken, your two cents for the day is worth more like a million dollars. There are numerous twisted and fear-based teachings from the ministry just in these 1-2 chapters in Genesis alone, and you have managed to untangle them all and present it more truthfully, scripturally, and clearly than Witness Lee EVER DID. This is one of the big ones that qualifies the local churches to be characterized as an abusive church. They use this false teaching often to control the behavior, emotions, and thoughts of their members. They say "good and evil are on the same tree" and that we "don't care" about either of them. Well, that's what we would call "calling good evil and calling evil good". They are, somehow, unbelievably, associating good and evil with each other, grouping them together. What kind of insane church does that?! Trapped