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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Thanks. So are you saying you think the LC being "false teachers" is the greatest error?
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In part WL, yes! I think the title of thread is a bit too general. Would be good to separate Witness Lee's person fro idea of Local Churches. Actally In London there are few districts where saints meet together. So idea is one thing but in fact they are in separate districts. Wold be nice if they see this hypocrisy of so strong proclamation about "one church" in one city. So there is one or five?
According to false teaching. Can we reject Peters letters just because of his hypocrisy? Do You think that after Paul rebuked him he repented? Can we laean from it? Yes! Can we judge Peter? No! Can we take something from what Witness saw? Yes! Can we judge his work and words or decision? Yes! If something was wrong or mistake it is not sin to see it and condemn.
Resuming in general: when I see all fruits of what he has done and said, i think nothing will happen if we throw away all these teaching togather with blind following. Just for any case. I thought You catch my line about tools. You can not replaced Holly Spirit's work. I can talk and write books hoping that You will step in my foot prints. But it does not work like this! Paul had hope and prayer only. One planted another add water, but only God can give a growth. That was my point. So if You push me to be more clear and adequate to thread: The biggest mistake of WL was hope and self confidence that he has a tools. He had know how. If You have just 100 saint led by Holly Spirit with different will and level of growth, how Yo can have Know How and create rules and principles! It had to lead to dictatorship. This is exactly against Lord Jesus' pattern- no pattern! Just live! I do not know how it happened and when, but little by little he believed more in himself than in Lord. This is amazing what he was saying and how he was acting. But raelly I am free of judging him permanently as person. May be he was reconciled with God last day and we will see him as overcmer? Do not ask who ascend to heaven... So except few obvious heresies ( God -man, preparing bide to cause Lord come earlier, relying on Holly Spirit that He will do all work for us without coowork, and few others) there was many good things. But remember, that he had read so many books of ancient brothers that even he was pride that he stands n others arms. If so, hen what was realy hi personal revelation. To wake up and check what is actually real, is better to reject all his books and grow in natural way under God's light. If You take photovoltaic panel it will transfer Sun light to cables and than make light in bulb.But is light in bulb Sun? Good servant is rather like a mirror than any transformator. So who care what Paul saw, and John and Peter and Witness?If there is no help and divine revelation causing You better relationship with God then this is vanity. But if in that ministry is something what God uses to bring You closer to Him, praise the Lord! I can find certain hidden thought in many books. On eof You said: we can not deal with it in one shot! But I hope all our thought can help others to deal with past and see what was wrong.
p.S. I found phonecall ercorded in 70's with WL and some brother. It was so nice to hear normal rude brother saying in terrible way" It is not your bussines" Yes, he was simply brother like me who need Grace, Just a sinner saved by grace. I regret that only few can be familiar with this tape. So let him R.I.P and go on! The Bible is base for us , Not WL or WN in XX century. God bless you!