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Old 11-28-2020, 09:05 AM   #88
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Default Re: We should do something

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Originally Posted by Trapped View Post
You are right; I read both threads one after the other and didn't mentally delineate where you made your spiritual comments. It was on the libel thread. The issue, and I'm speaking as a church kid, is that you kept throwing spiritual phrases at her directly, even on that thread, even as she made it clear that she herself didn't like it. I'm saying this as a fellow believer myself, but for church kids who have been hurt by the local church to the point where they don't feel like God cares at all (think about that for just a second.....can you imagine feeling that way?) to repeatedly have "Praise the Lord" and "Christ is our hope of glory!" and "He loves us!" and "now we know how to pray for you" and all that kind of stuff....even after she made it clear she would rather not have that sickly spiritual christian-ese language directed AT her......is insensitive, thick-headed, deaf, and drives people away. You invalidated the person behind the words. She said she doesn't think God cares, isn't a believer, doesn't feel like she'd been given a free gift. And you responded by essentially telling her she actually was a believer, and the best thing is to take problems to Jesus (the very one, btw, she feels doesn't care at all). Deaf, to say the least. I am fine with your suggestion to take this particular topic (what is considered "insensitive" for church kids) to another thread, if anyone thinks there is value to it.

By the way, I'm not trying to keep beating you over the head about it; as you said, you apologized. I'm trying to explain so the issues church kids come to the forum with are better understood.

And I'll also tone down what I said about the forum being useless to three generations of church kids. I think it's more accurate to say it's useless to three generations of any church kids who come here who are truly struggling with their faith and don't see any reason to believe that God cares, and for whom overly spiritual language shuts them down. The church kids in that category is not an insignificant percentage. The ex-LC member facebook page is replete with members who are still "triggered" by that kind of speaking. What happened to "being all things to all people"?
Thanks for the reply. After considering this a bit and praying about it, I'm not going to try and fix this or myself . . . because I can't. Rather, I chose to take Paul's admonition to forget those things which are behind, and that includes statements made on this thread, both from myself and others. (and this is after I made the suggestion earlier that we do an Alt Section thread to examine these things to understand better what happened - see my post #76)

I'm not trying to be flippant, rather this is a reminder to me to give each and every post to Him, before hitting the "Enter" button. I don't always do that well, and so yes, sometimes things come through that appear insensitive. I've had a number of times where after asking, "Lord, what do you think of this post I'm ready to make?" that I've been constrained from making a post, and numerous times where I've modified a post.

BTW - I've also been told by other forum members that I had nothing to apologize for in that thread. But I am also sensitive to the matter of being "tone deaf." My flesh would want to keep going at this whole topic, but again, I think it's best to forget it and leave it to Him.
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