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Originally Posted by Trapped
Totally agree. When I saw that sentence "the accusation is absurd" that stuck out as a gigantic red flag of a lie. The co-workers also say it is "absurd" to ask who the names of the so-called apostles are, even though it's actually completely biblical.
So we can know that, for "the co-workers" in "the Lord's recovery", true and biblical things are absurd.
And for them to say "Living Stream Ministry has no organizational, administrative, or financial control over the churches"??? The co-workers completely leave out the fact that LSM has behavioral, informational, thought, and emotion control over the churches and the individual elders and members, which is the truth they conveniently omit. LSM's whole shtick is infused with threats, fear, and heavy-handed teachings, which are precisely a form of control.
I mean, hang on. The live trainings are put on by LSM. The main speakers have for a very long time been LSM board members. The messages they speak are then published by LSM and sold to all the local churches. Their own teachings say that if you don't follow what they say ("the ministry of the age", which is only freshly released at LSM events, spoken by LSM employees, and sold by LSM itself) then you are toast before God. Explain to me again how LSM has zero control over anything?
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Way back when, I was in charge of updating and printing the phone list. They were careful to make sure names of those no longer attending meetings were removed from the list. Many objected to this, because the phone list was their prayer list.
Why, you ask? Based on the phone list, LSM issued a standing order for books and literature which the churches were required to purchase in order to remain in "good standing." (Franchise fees?) This "standing order" was passed along to the saints, whether they/we wanted it or not. I could never pay that much and I didn't read all that stuff anyway. I had such a backlog that one time they just gave me my order without paying. The "standing order" just "went away" one day without fanfare.
I don't know if they still do this kind of stuff, but it was pretty sleazy while it was going on. And now, for them to build a "WHO ME??" website shouldn't surprise anyone. I'm trying to avoid saying "absurd" :-) .
Nell