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SerenityLives · 10-29-2020, 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=Trapped;96261 as well as the rest of your "god died to save us from himself" thought the other day. Haven't forgotten, no intention to ghost you, just delayed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I think this has to do with the way the Trinity is portrayed. God didnt save us from himself but from the sin he allowed to enter the garden. So he is culpable to some degree. Man is 100 percent not responsible for that sin, as portrayed by Awareness’s instance of God hardening Pharoah’s heart not of his free will, it seems, and the curious walking serpent he allowed in the garden. Seems like the serpent has free will too. Yes free will makes things more interesting but does it cause more harm than good? Why would God allow that? I wish there was some middle ground here, where God allows free will but which you have to wonder if it was free will or a God who just wants His way with divine retribution.

He used his son to save us, everything can be fixed through simple sacrifice. Just like Isaac and Abraham. and Abel’s offerings. He is still a God who loves sacrifices (atonements is a word ilwith more positive connotations), no better than the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses. Dont get me wrong, I thank God for sacrificing his son to atone for our sins, but it’s like dealing with a bipolar Dad. One minute he’s angry, and the next minute he forgives. Now that, I dont understand because it sounds like an emotionally abusive dad. Please God, why cant I understand?

10-29-2020, 02:22 PM	#478
SerenityLives Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 524	Re: Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions [QUOTE=Trapped;96261 as well as the rest of your "god died to save us from himself" thought the other day. Haven't forgotten, no intention to ghost you, just delayed. Thanks.[/QUOTE] I think this has to do with the way the Trinity is portrayed. God didnt save us from himself but from the sin he allowed to enter the garden. So he is culpable to some degree. Man is 100 percent not responsible for that sin, as portrayed by Awareness’s instance of God hardening Pharoah’s heart not of his free will, it seems, and the curious walking serpent he allowed in the garden. Seems like the serpent has free will too. Yes free will makes things more interesting but does it cause more harm than good? Why would God allow that? I wish there was some middle ground here, where God allows free will but which you have to wonder if it was free will or a God who just wants His way with divine retribution. He used his son to save us, everything can be fixed through simple sacrifice. Just like Isaac and Abraham. and Abel’s offerings. He is still a God who loves sacrifices (atonements is a word ilwith more positive connotations), no better than the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses. Dont get me wrong, I thank God for sacrificing his son to atone for our sins, but it’s like dealing with a bipolar Dad. One minute he’s angry, and the next minute he forgives. Now that, I dont understand because it sounds like an emotionally abusive dad. Please God, why cant I understand?