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Old 10-25-2020, 08:06 AM   #401
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Are you saying that Genesis 1 was a separate creation story before Gensis 2? Or that Genesis 1 was first? Because the way I see it, two different authors wrote the genesis 1 and genesis 2 stories, respectively. In Genesis 1, God seems more distant creating things from a far off point of view and creates men and women simultaneously AFTER creating plants and animals. Genesis 2, God splits man into two halves, the other half being Eve and then creates the plants and animals. Also, in the hebrew versions of the words for God, one story uses Yahweh, the other uses Elohim. Genesis 1 tries to transition into Gensis 2 but fails to do so because the wording is flipped and different. See here:
There’s another example of evidence that the two stories were redacted- Genesis 1 begins with The first “when God began to create heaven and earth” (Gen 1:1) and then flows into “this is the story of heaven and earth when they were created” (Gen 2:4). The second story begins in the same verse, with a similar clause, “When the Lord God made earth and heaven.” Though both narratives commence with the same word pair (“heaven and earth”) the terms are in opposite order.

See source: https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/pass...ons-in-genesis

So then if Genesis 1 occured many years before Genesis 2, then there are two creation stories and homosexuality could have veen in the creation from the very beginning, but the authors or whoever editted it would have left it out due to it being a taboo at the time. If Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are the same story, with different order, then it has to be one or the other, unless God made plants and animals before A and E and then after A and E, and humans existed before A and E, along with A and E or after A and E. So we can never be sure of what really happened and when gayness was an element introduced by God or Lucifer/fall of man.

Please see article for further reading: https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/Genesis_texts.html
No, what I was refering to here is a gap of time between Genesis verse one & two.

From Wikipedia Found Here:
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Gap creationism (also known as ruin-restoration creationism, restoration creationism, or "the Gap Theory") is a form of old Earth creationism that posits that the six-yom creation period, as described in the Book of Genesis, involved six literal 24-hour days (light being "day" and dark "night" as God specified), but that there was a gap of time between two distinct creations in the first and the second verses of Genesis, which the theory states explains many scientific observations, including the age of the Earth. It differs from day-age creationism, which posits that the 'days' of creation were much longer periods (of thousands or millions of years), and from young Earth creationism, which although it agrees concerning the six literal 24-hour days of creation, does not posit any gap of time.

Long before the modern study of geology, early church writers have examined the biblical text and considered the idea that between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 was an indeterminate period when the created world fell into chaos. It is often linked with the idea that the angelic realm was originally entrusted with power over the earth which concluded with a betrayal of that trust when a number of them followed Satan in rebellion against God.

Genesis 1 1)In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2) Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.


The Gap Theory posits that in verse one, God created everything perfectly. Then something happened (a rebellion) to make it formless, void, empty and vain, which is shown in verse 2. The word "was" can be translated "became" or "came to pass." Therefore verse two can be rendered, "The earth became without form and became void." Therefore He then came to the earth and brooded over it ("Spirit of God hovering") to restore it.

BTW - The waters covering the earth, mentioned in verse two, may have been because he had previously flooded it in judgment, to destroy the rebellious ones (at least physically). Therefore He promised after Noah's flood not to again destroy everything with water.
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