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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Concerning the bolded above, I wonder about "may eat . . ." Sure, we may eat a lot of things, including things we shouldn't - as they did.
So if it was about just the disobedience, and wasn't about both the disobedience and the ingesting, then this means that everything happened because of the disobedience. That is, sin got into the flesh and corrupted man and death was brought in, only as a result of the disobedient act. Their very genes seemed to have changed and they passed this on to all generations of those in Adam #1, again, simply because they were disobedient.
It's easier for me to think that something got into them through what they ingested, that caused things to drastically change in them - from the perfect beings they were as created, into the monumental mess of a train wreck of flesh that resulted.
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Romans 5:15-19
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by
the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many!
16 Again, the gift is not like the result of the
one man’s sin: The judgment that followed one sin brought condemnation, but the gift that followed many trespasses brought justification.
17 For if,
by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive an abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!
18 So then, just as
one trespass brought condemnation for all men, so also
one act of righteousness brought justification and life for all men.
19 For just as
through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Romans 5 agrees with your statement that it's about the disobedience, the sin, the trespass, the act. Everything truly happened because of the disobedience. Sin is in us because of the act of disobedience of Adam and Eve. Death reigns because it's the punishment for sin and we all sin.
Other verses (also in Romans I think?) talk of SIN dwelling in us. Sin came in through the sinful act of disobedience. There is never a mention of any kind of element or poison or substance that entered from the tree. Not one.
It's a shift of some neurological pathways that have believed for so long that it's something external, some element, something from the tree that "got in", but the support for it is an echoing silence in scripture.