[Trapped]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I’ve read the story of Ruth and Naomi a number of times, so no you dont have to tell me I didnt take even one minute to read the passage. I’ll come back to this later but how you reacted to claims in previous thread of how God is gay or Jesus as homosexual just proves my point that it made you feel very angry and disgusted whenever others point out there is any hint of homo-romance in the Bible.

Also, do you have anything to say in regards to my response to your other post about Paul’s verses and the context he was writing in?

I'll save you the time. I'm obviously the one who wrote those responses on God/gay and Jesus/homosexual and I remember very well that there was no anger in them. Here they are reproduced below for your convenience. Any reader can see there is no anger. If you read "anger" into these kinds of responses, then I don't know what to say because there is blatantly no anger in them. There is no point you have to prove in this regard.

My frustration at the end of the last thread was related to you shutting things down again in the middle of a discussion. At that time I pointed out that I respectfully and seriously dealt with hearing things opposite from mine without trying to shut anything down, and didn't appreciate you wanting to shut things down when you got reasonable responses opposite yours in return. That's not anger at homo-romance. That was frustration at you opening and closing threads up repeatedly, that's all. I'm thrilled the conversation has been able to continue on this thread.

The only thing that riles me on these threads is nonsensical "logic", which I have said repeatedly. By the way, the "totally disgusting" comment I made about Ruth and Naomi wasn't even related to their both being the same gender, but being within the same family. And both were clearly heterosexual, with husbands (and children, one of them) and yet somehow you get a lesbian relationship from that? Like I said - my issue is repeatedly with the "logic" presented here. That's the thing - there's not even a HINT of homo-romance in the portions you are trying to wedge it in there! You say you have read the passages, so what on earth are you doing trying to pretend there is a God-approved homo-romance in there from literally out of nowhere?

Yes, I have many responses to many of the things that have been posted on this thread. I'm short on time every single day and am literally posting here as much as I can. This topic being discussed has knocked down many a rainforest in books and articles contending with it by professionals on both sides of the issue, and those of us on this thread are just lay-people doing so in our precious little spare time. Happily, I might add, but I don't have time to go down every single issue in real-time, as much as I truly do want to. It's an important topic, as I have said in the past. I'm trying to keep up.

I'm also guessing from your lack of responding to my asking you three times to confirm that you don't have a problem with two committed heterosexuals living together having sex but not being married......that you think that behavior is okay?

Originally Posted by Trapped's totally un-angry post about God is gay

The Bible never says God was lonely. That would imply the infinite God was needy or lacking, and He sure isn't.

Genesis 1:26 says "Let US make man in Our image...." not "let ME make man in MY image". God wasn't alone at the beginning of creation when He made Adam, and He didn't create man because He was lonely.

If He was gay, then He would have wanted Adam for Himself, and would never have created Eve for Adam.

If God was gay, then why would He make a straight Adam? And Adam was clearly straight because God made Eve. That's a heterosexual relationship. It would be pretty awful of God to have made a straight Adam if He wanted a gay relationship with straight Adam.

So, no, for multiple pretty logical reasons, God's not gay.

God is Spirit. He's not a physical person like us. He is not bounded by space, by time, by physical matter. He is infinite, holds the universe in His hands, knows every star, every hair on your head, He is powerful, moral, personal, more mighty and majestic than we can ever comprehend.

Originally Posted by Trapped's similarly not-angry two posts about Jesus being homosexual

Keep in mind that Jesus was a known figure, thronged by crowds much of the time, and most importantly was always being watched and scrutinized so the Pharisees, etc could find a reason to do away with Him. If there was a single HINT of homosexual activity on Jesus' part, the religious guys after Him would have pounced before they could say "aha!" since it was, as Humperdinck said, punishable by death. They were looking for any reason to kill Him. And yet Jesus was with a group of guys all throughout the time of His earthly ministry and the religious establishment still had nothing to charge Him with in that regard. They muttered and complained about His speaking to women, eating with prostitutes and tax collectors and sinners, but we never read a word about them scheming about any homosexual suspicions.

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The NT is equally mum about whether Jesus killed anyone or didn't kill anyone, stole anything or didn't steal, coveted or didn't covet, liked His meat cooked rare or well done......does anyone consider that "strangely mum" or issues that are "left open"? The NT writers probably could never have imagined people 2,000 years later reasonably positing that the Son of God who came to seek and to save those who are lost was a homosexual!

And if this discussion is couched in Jesus, and if you want to reasonably suggest what you've suggested, then His being a celibate homosexual, and an example to those claiming to be Christian, means His is the example to follow when it comes to what people who have homosexual attractions should do. To suggest Jesus was a celibate homosexual doesn't seem to be a desirable suggestion for homosexuals who want the Bible/Jesus to support their desire for a homosexual relationship.

What does suggesting that Jesus was a celibate homosexual (the very two things no one wants paired together) gain for anyone?