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Old 10-11-2020, 12:26 PM   #4
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Default Re: Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

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Originally Posted by Trapped View Post
I was going to write a post, but turned to google to get help with some phrasing, and found an article already written that encapsulates my thought better than I could have written it. I also think this article dovetails somewhat into StG's line of inquiry about homosexual acts being "off the mark".

Here's the link. This is standard apologetics/logic stuff:

https://www.str.org/w/homosexuality-...ought-fallacy-

I would tighten up his words to say "homosexual sex is unnatural" rather than homosexuality, which would just imply the attractions. I'm consistently trying to make a distinction between the feelings and the acts, the former not being a sin, and the latter being a sin, at least in my grounding of it.

To me, this is like looking at a pile of hex nuts and bolts, and thinking it's totally normal to try to use two hex nuts to assemble a bookshelf. Can you put two hex nuts next to each other? Sure you can. But it's obvious it's "off the mark" of how nuts and bolts were designed to be used in conjunction with each other.

And by the way, this is not an argument related to procreation. I'm just talking about the design for use, not what's produced from the designed use.
I think it's more complex than the nut fits the bolt.

I've mentioned a brother in the LC, that came out as gay to his wife, 3 kids, parents, and the LC. I was out of the LC for about 6 months at that time. It didn't bother me that he was gay. I stayed friends with him for years.

And I picked and picked at his brains to try to determine what made him gay. To no avail. Then he eventually explained it to me.

Here's how it happened. He and his lover worked as programmers for a large utility company. There they made friends with a female programmer. She didn't know they were gay, and was hurt when her advances were rejected.

At Halloween, they went together to Oktoberfest in Key West. They got drunk. When they got back to their room she was inebriated out of her gourd. So they decided to give her whats she's been begging for. They took turns.

This blew my mind on many levels. I said, John, you told me you didn't like lady parts. He said, "I'm not gay for the sex ; lady parts are made for male parts. It's the best. I'm gay for romance with men.

And there it was. That's why I say it's more complex than a nut and bolt. Human's aren't robots.
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