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Originally Posted by awareness
Genetics today disproves that homosexuality is just a choice that God can judge.
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I'm not sure you even read responses to on these threads. We've covered this already. God judges your actions. If you have same-sex attractions, that's not a sin. If you jump into bed and have homosexual sex, that's a sin He'll judge. No one's genetics are tying their hands and forcing them to have homosexual sex. We are all made in various ways, but God judges what we do, not just simply us existing.
Besides, like much of this thread, claims and arguments have been contradictory. LGBTQ supporters want to absolve themselves by pointing to genetics, and then they post an article (on the other thread), the main crux of which is "oh no, how dare you point to genetics!!" I haven't seen literally anything that makes cohesive sense yet.
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Originally Posted by awareness
I personally see 18 as lacking all of God's thinking on the matter ; like the author(s) failed to write at the end, something like, "Love conquers all." Which means God realized that love between same sexes, overrides such condemnatory statements. Then God wouldn't be off the mark. We just don't know the mind of God.
And if how Job depicts God is accurate, then, God is a trickster God ... and all bets are off. God could mean Leviticus 18 ... or not. And looking a genetic evidence today, He doesn't.
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Okay.......awareness.......God loves us all. He "SO" loves us, as John 3:16 says. Love does conquer all. But guess what.....as you know.....His holiness and righteousness still have to be satisfied. Love doesn't NEGATE all. When we sinned, God the righteous judge has to punish wrongdoing, or else He wouldn't be a just God. If a murderer killed a family member of yours, and the judge looked at you and said "love conquers all" and let the guy go, that's not a righteous judge. Punishment still has to occur.
And so Jesus took our punishment, so God's righteousness and holiness can still stand. His love does reach "farther" but it doesn't mean everything else is tossed off a cliff.
God fully sees and acknowledges our sins, and in order for us to be saved, we have to acknowledge the depth of our sin too. Otherwise we wouldn't have need for a Savior without that acknowledgement. It's when we see them and acknowledge them that He will cover them. But if we go around claiming clear sins aren't sins, and continue in those sins, He can't cover them.
You are mixing two things, frequently. "Love between same sexes" is fine. SEX between same sexes ISN'T. "Love covers all" is certainly not speaking of homosexual sex, and you fully well know that.
I'll get to SerenityLives' interesting thoughts on arsenokoitai this weekend. I've been wanting to respond to that from the previous thread but haven't had the time.