[Sons to Glory!]

See below comments Basically, don't get yer feathers too ruffled, bro, mine aren't!

Originally Posted by Ohio

Haven't you ever been on a discussion board with 2 conversations going on at once? Yes, I do think that awareness's blasphemous comments about God should not go unchallenged. I think it is he who derails discussions, not me, and I have said so. Perhaps you are not bothered by them, and that's fine too. But I am. It's a Christian forum, isn't it? Do we believe in God and the Bible or not? I am bothered by awareness' anti-God comments, and have said so a number of times . . . perhaps you've missed this. I do usually find his comments more bothersome.

From the beginning I took another course of discussion. Instead of taking the normal path and using the Bible verses to say how LGBT is sin, I decided to examine it from a societal view. My posts also went unanswered, specifically what are the long term damages that the trans movement will have on society?

Neither of these are "rabbit holes" to me. No, I think that's fair - it's just that once you and awareness get going, it seems to prety much dominate the discussion . . . you two can't resist jabbing each other apparently.

Since you started this thread, why don't you state some guidelines for discussion, that way you won't get offended like serenity and awareness when someone like me inadvertently steps on your toes and you demand this thread be shut down. Not offended bro - just don't want to see us off snorkeling in the weeds (as mentioned above).

So far we have discussed the following:

• Slandering God and defending Him *
• Allegations of LGBT persecutions and hoaxes *
• Dangers of Trans on women *
• Claims by the Moderator that these posts are garbage
• God truly loves the LGBT but hates the sin, just as he loves all sinners but still hates their sin * Amen & AMEN!!!
• Effects of alcohol on people * - just trying to point out that an excess thereof is also called out as sin, like homobizness
• Mistreatment of Blacks in criminal justice system

Thanks for that synopsis! So the things marked with an asterisk are definitely related to the LGBTQ+ things learned topic I think. The others are a sidebar at best. Sidebars are okay as they may help clarify the main point, but at some point it's snorkeling in the weeds. I really just ask that things like what you and awareness get into would somehow not become the predominate thing as it seems to have been on other threads (you guys must secretly enjoy these little back-n-forths between each other) - then the main subject tends to get lost as people start responding to the other thing . . .

Also, the things that appear to really trip each other's triggers are the political related stuff, and slandering God comments. If we can keep these to a minimum, it might make for a more fruitful discussion. (However, I also acknowledge it may be difficult to do, since this topic is so intertwined with both minefields!

And as we say in our leadership classes, "Attack the problem, not the person!"