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Originally Posted by SerenityLives
It’s pretty simple. Comparing alcohol addiction to being gay or lesbian is not a good parallel comparison. Alcohol can lead to drunk driving, reckless behavior, even murder and violence. Being lgbtq in it of itself is not harmful. Just providing discomfort to white males. It is only harmful if the homosexual couple behaves like any other straight couple might- cheating, divorce etc. Have you guys ever divorced? Instead of throwing pebbles at lgbtq relationships that work and being jealous about it, why dont you guys just take a look at yourselves and your own relationships with your wives, ex-wives etc? Just take a look at this discussion right here;
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comm...tent=post_body
Gay and lesbian couples can have living successful relationships, based on prominent couple psychologist: https://www.gottman.com/about/resear...e-sex-couples/
Just like any other couple. |
I agree it's not a good comparison, and I think that a better one is a heterosexual couple in a committed relationship living together and having sex before marriage, or never getting married.
I like this as a example because its commonly done, still oftentimes looked down upon, and it also pertains directly to what has been called "the clobber verses".
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who
practice homosexuality,
1 Timothy 1:10
for the
sexually immoral, for those
practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
The "fornicators" and the "sexually immoral" in those verses apply directly to me, as a heterosexual, in precisely the same way "practicing homosexuality" applies to a homosexual. There is no difference. Both refer to the acts rather than to who we are as a person. Both refer to the sexual acts, and not to feelings we wish we didn't have.
These verses "clobber" me just as much as they "clobber" an LGBTQ person.
So in my example of a committed heterosexual couple, all the same arguments apply:
1. we can adopt a child and help the world
2. we aren't hurting anyone
3. we skirt what the Bible says about sexual relations in/outside the bounds of marriage
4. it "feels right"
5. it involves sex
6. it involves love
7. it involves commitment
And yet, it's also a sin. We can have something that hits all the feel good markers, that we can point to all the reasons why no one should take issue with it, and yet, the Word calls it unrighteous and contrary to sound doctrine.
Do I like it? Not necessarily. Can it be called a "living successful relationship"? Yep. But do I know what the Bible says and thus not do it? Yep.
Would you call a heterosexual couple committed, living together, having sex, adopting a child, not hurting anyone, and yet never getting married......a sin?
There's no catch behind the question. It's a simple, straightforward yes or no, for anyone reading.