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Old 10-07-2020, 02:33 AM   #3
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Default Re: Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

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I suppose the one thing we couldn't seem to get past on the other thread, was any admittance that homosexuality was off the original mark, and is therefore a sin.

To repeat myself, over & over, again & again, one more time . . . LGBTQ+ in my Bible is off the mark (i.e., "sin"). So are many things of the flesh and are talked about in scripture a lot. Man's heart is sick and produces all kinds of things which are off the mark. We need The Savior to bring us all back so we're able to fellowship freely with God and damaging things can be dealt with.

So the Bible calls us to agree with His word, confess and repent whenever fleshy things are manifested. I repeatedly used drunkenness as an example previously, because by itself drunkenness harms no one else (unless something else is committed while drunk). Yet it is called out as a sin in the Bible. If I'm a drinker, I may not like that scripture calls drunkenness a sin, yet there it is. So do I get scissors and cut out those verses? I could, but the truth is still the truth. If I'm an alcoholic, no one does me any favors by not calling it what it is!

So it seems to me, that to a homosexual who has also been regenerated with the life of Christ, there is at least some issue here. Just like if I'm a Christian who likes to get drunk. There's a damaging element, which our loving Father wants to save us from, but can't if we don't even admit that something's off. (it's a free will thing)

So can someone help me understand why it seems that Christian LGBTQ+ people don't seem to see that it's something even a little off the mark - just like other manifestations of the flesh?

Final thought here; I know that the sweeping tide of this age wants to say all kinds of things are perfectly okay or not even a tad bit off-the-mark, because it (apparently) hurts no one, etc. But the tide of the world is in contrast to the Word of God on pretty much everything!!! As Christians, we are called to be set apart from the world and to speak the truth in love to those in it.
It’s pretty simple. Comparing alcohol addiction to being gay or lesbian is not a good parallel comparison. Alcohol can lead to drunk driving, reckless behavior, even murder and violence. Being lgbtq in it of itself is not harmful. Just providing discomfort to white males. It is only harmful if the homosexual couple behaves like any other straight couple might- cheating, divorce etc. Have you guys ever divorced? Instead of throwing pebbles at lgbtq relationships that work and being jealous about it, why dont you guys just take a look at yourselves and your own relationships with your wives, ex-wives etc? Just take a look at this discussion right here;

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comm...tent=post_body

Gay and lesbian couples can have living successful relationships, based on prominent couple psychologist: https://www.gottman.com/about/resear...e-sex-couples/

Just like any other couple.
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