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Originally Posted by djohnson
Do you really believe that Rapoport would be that stupid? If he did read all those books and was such a good strategist surely he would know that he could not take over a movement which was about 90% Chinese - a language and culture which he was not from nor part of. I am not suggesting he was not ambitious. But I personally think it is a good thing for a leader to be a man of action and a person who can get things done instead of being a passive wimp.
It is probable he wanted to shake up the status quo and those with vested interests in it - like other jealous leaders - did not want their domains threatened. And no doubt Rapoport made many mistakes which apparently he has repented for. But from what I understand the biggest mistake he made was joining the LCS and letting himself get into the center of the Lee family and LSM quagmire. I suspect he is very happy he escaped when he did!
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Hello dj,
When MR and I were involved in the LC the chinese, at least in Texas and So. Cal were not 90%. In Texas about 5%. Similar in the Northwest. The mid-west was higher, perhaps 35-40%.
dj, you seem to know a lot about this topic. Did you ever know MR? Since you were never in a LC, you are probably making a big reach to assume you knew the motives of other leaders. Furthermore, I would not classify people you never knew as "passive wimps." It never hurts to give others a little benefit of the doubt.
Yes, MR did expect to lead the movement. It was not a matter of cold calculated thought. He, just like WL, saw his calling to be in leadership. He assumed it was God's call for him to head up the "Recovery."
Many times our actions come from good intentions which are found in our self delusions. When MR was attemping to manipulate some of the elders, he no doubt assumed it was for their good and was the Father's will that they come under his "positive" influence.
By the way, brother dj, there were plenty of brothers who would match your standard for leadership. Benson Phillips, Ray Graver, Don Looper, Titus Chu, John So, Bill Freeman, Bill Barker, Gene Gruhler, Ken Unger, Dick Taylor, Howard Higashi and a host of others .
"But I personally think it is a good thing for a leader to be a man of action and a person who can get things done instead of being a passive wimp." When MR came to Texas for conferences and he came for several there were hundred and hundreds there. Where did they come from? Not from the work of passive wimps. When MR and JI came to Texas to recruit young people for the churches in Orange County, the churches in Texas gave up 125. They did not pack up and go just because MR made an announcement. They had been raised up by "men of action" and they were consequently men and women of action. The brothers in Texas were far more fruitful than MR. We gained hundreds more and brought many more to salvation and into the church than he. While the church in Anaheim was languishing, we were adding scores and scores of new people and establishing new churches.
dj you got this one wrong. It was a power struggle. I was there.
In Christ Jesus,
Hope, Don Rutledge