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Your post below.

Hey BJB, I hear ya. God is God, not his son, and he's a single being ; not suffering from multiple personality disorder, now termed Dissociative identity disorder (DID). And you think the church has been disordered and distorted by the doctrines (dogmas) of the trinity, and that Jesus was God. And the original foundational church was founded without those doctrines, that came along later. And you hold that we need to go back to that. After all, it was the original foundational church, and we need it back ; that's the real recovery of the church.

But looking at the OT, we can see how people were that held to the one true God the Father. And their record, or rap sheet if you will, doesn't look good. Cuz, maybe the trinity is hard wired in our head, but so is disloyalty ... so it appears, according to the one true God the Father in the OT.

You do realize that we're dealing with human beings. And if we manage to get it right, humans will stray, just like they did in the OT.

The foundational church was founded at Pentecost. And that's what we need if we ever hope to recover the foundational church. If it depends on humans, it will fail. Don't you think?

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Your Post :

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

The Supreme Being in the universe is above all and over all- He is Lord of all, King over all; for the Supreme Being, we use the word “God”. Scripture tells us that this Supreme Being is eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God. The gospel, the “ evangel” is (that is, should be) that Jesus, the anointed, the Christ, came as promised by the Supreme Being, died for our sins, and that the Supreme Being raised Christ Jesus from the dead, and exalted him to the highest position in all the Supreme Being’s creation. The Supreme Being made this crucified, resurrected man Lord over all. This is what Ephesians is all about; that we would see this good news, that we would appreciate all that the Supreme Being has done with and through this anointed man, Jesus, and we would have this exalted man Lord over us in every aspect of our lives, and that we believers, together- the church, would honor and proclaim and express what the Supreme Being has accomplished with and through Christ Jesus- the anointed, glorified, exalted man of the Supreme Being’s choosing.

The Supreme Being is Lord over all by His intrinsic being. Jesus is Lord by his appointment by the Supreme Being. The Supreme Being is greater than all. The Supreme Being is head of Christ. The Supreme Being is the God of the Christ. The Supreme Being , as the scripture tells us in the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. Jesus, as the scriptures tell us is the son of God. We, through the working of the Supreme Being, are privileged to share in this whole relation between the Supreme Being and His Christ, so we are seated in the heaven with Christ, we inherit the riches of God with Christ, we call the Supreme Being “Father” as does Christ, we are the sons of The Supreme Being in Christ.

When we say Jesus is Lord, we are not acknowledging him as God, the Supreme Being, but acknowledging the position that the Supreme Being has placed him. The proclamation of the church should be this message, this good news, this evangel. We profess the One True Supreme Being, whom we call God our Father, who is Lord and King over all creation, and we acknowledge Jesus our savior, the anointed man whom The Supreme Being raised from the dead and made Lord over the Supreme Being’s creation. This, again is the message we should receive in reading Paul’s letter to the Ephesians. This is the gospel Paul defends in his letter to the Galatians. This is what is proclaimed throughout Luke’s historical account in Acts. This is what Paul wrote to the Romans. The content of the church should be to appreciate this, live this and proclaim this.

Trinitarianism has ruined and altered this gospel and created a three headed god that has corrupted the the church and the message of the church. This corruption was codified in decrees during the 4th and 5th century and enforced and practiced for the last 1500 years. What we may term the “Evangelical” church started as a breakaway from the corruption brought about by this false gospel, but although many practices were forsaken by the “reformation”, trinitarianism was not. So, today, the evangelicals, and their message still hold to trinitarianism. The Supreme Being has been altered into a three being. The understanding of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus and an appreciation of that has been altered into God the Son, Jesus is God message. So the message of the glorious gospel proclaimed in scripture has been altered. The important revelation given to us by Paul in Ephesians is no longer the message.