[Nell]

Originally Posted by Trapped

That says so much, doesn't it?!

I know the verse says "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for/to those who are in Christ Jesus" but I think it's also okay to keep in mind "there is no condemnation FROM those who are in Christ Jesus" too. Not as a re-write of the verse, but in understanding, essentially, whether or not to give credence or the time of day to someone's words. If someone is condemning you, (and usually we can tell the difference between condemnation and truth in love), then they are not in Christ Jesus either.....and that means the shame of their condemnation is not on your head for whatever they said, but on theirs for their condemning words.

In other words, if Lee is condemning his readers, he is not in Christ Jesus. If he isn't in Christ Jesus at any given point, then he's just another sinner we can choose to listen or not listen to.

And then there's this:
Matthew 7 New King James Version (NKJV)
7 “Judge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Nell