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Boxjobox · 08-27-2020, 08:11 AM

Here is the Statement of Faith from the LSM web site. Compare it to my post of 8-25-20 8:21am where I talk about the trinitarian view of 1 Tim 2.5-6. That is not creating a straw- man argument, but presents an accurate view of the mental gymnastics a devout follower of trinitarianism exercises when reading the passage. How do I know? I was there once myself, heard many others morph the passage to adhere to the 3/1 belief system, lest one would actually take what is written that there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus.
So what is missing from the LSM statement of belief? That there is but one God, the Father as Paul so succinctly declares to the Corinthians. Read my 8-25 post and read this copy of the LSM Statement of Faith and see whether it is not appropriate to discuss this subject openly rather than hide behind Orthodoxy. This is what WL/LSM promotes in their business- it definitely needs to be discussed!

LSM statement of Faith

Holding the Bible as the complete and only divine revelation, we strongly believe that God is eternally one and also eternally the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, the three being distinct but not separate. We hold that Christ is both the complete God and the perfect man. Without abandoning His divinity, He was conceived in the womb of a human virgin, lived a genuine human life on earth, and died a vicarious and all-inclusive death on the cross. After three days He resurrected bodily and has ascended to the heavens. He is now in glory, fully God but still fully man. We look to His imminent return with the kingdom of God, by which He will reign over the earth in the millennium and in eternity. We confess that the third of the Trinity, the Spirit, is equally God. All that the Father has and is, is expressed by the Son; and all that the Son has and is, is realized as the Spirit. We further believe that mankind is in need of God's salvation. Though we were absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God's righteousness, holiness, and glory, Christ fulfilled all the requirements through His death on the cross. Because of Christ's death, God has forgiven us of our sins, justified us by making Christ our righteousness and reconciled us to Himself. Based on Christ's redemption, God regenerates the redeemed with His Spirit to consummate His salvation, that they may become His children. Now possessing God's life and nature, the believers enjoy a daily salvation in His Body in this age and the eternal salvation in the coming age and in eternity. In eternity we will dwell with God in the New Jerusalem, the consummation of God's salvation of His elect.

08-27-2020, 08:11 AM	#177
Boxjobox Moderated Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 829	Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread) Here is the Statement of Faith from the LSM web site. Compare it to my post of 8-25-20 8:21am where I talk about the trinitarian view of 1 Tim 2.5-6. That is not creating a straw- man argument, but presents an accurate view of the mental gymnastics a devout follower of trinitarianism exercises when reading the passage. How do I know? I was there once myself, heard many others morph the passage to adhere to the 3/1 belief system, lest one would actually take what is written that there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus. So what is missing from the LSM statement of belief? That there is but one God, the Father as Paul so succinctly declares to the Corinthians. Read my 8-25 post and read this copy of the LSM Statement of Faith and see whether it is not appropriate to discuss this subject openly rather than hide behind Orthodoxy. This is what WL/LSM promotes in their business- it definitely needs to be discussed! LSM statement of Faith Holding the Bible as the complete and only divine revelation, we strongly believe that God is eternally one and also eternally the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, the three being distinct but not separate. We hold that Christ is both the complete God and the perfect man. Without abandoning His divinity, He was conceived in the womb of a human virgin, lived a genuine human life on earth, and died a vicarious and all-inclusive death on the cross. After three days He resurrected bodily and has ascended to the heavens. He is now in glory, fully God but still fully man. We look to His imminent return with the kingdom of God, by which He will reign over the earth in the millennium and in eternity. We confess that the third of the Trinity, the Spirit, is equally God. All that the Father has and is, is expressed by the Son; and all that the Son has and is, is realized as the Spirit. We further believe that mankind is in need of God's salvation. Though we were absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God's righteousness, holiness, and glory, Christ fulfilled all the requirements through His death on the cross. Because of Christ's death, God has forgiven us of our sins, justified us by making Christ our righteousness and reconciled us to Himself. Based on Christ's redemption, God regenerates the redeemed with His Spirit to consummate His salvation, that they may become His children. Now possessing God's life and nature, the believers enjoy a daily salvation in His Body in this age and the eternal salvation in the coming age and in eternity. In eternity we will dwell with God in the New Jerusalem, the consummation of God's salvation of His elect.