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Old 08-17-2020, 10:33 PM   #140
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Default Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

BJB,

Let me make my own position clear first: I'm not advocating for a Trinity. I'm not a trinitarian. I'm not saying the Father and the Son are co-equal. I'm not saying the Father and the Son are the same God. I'm not saying they are part of a three-yet-one scenario.

If you respond to my post, don't talk to me about the trinity or claim I have a trinitarian perspective. I don't.

I am totally with you on "the one true God" being the Father. Totally with you on Jesus saying "Your God and my God and your Father and my Father." Totally with you on Jesus constantly pointing to the only God, God the Father.

Don't quote back to me what Paul said in the myriad of verses you keep quoting. I have read them all and I agree. I want to see what you think about a couple other sets of verses.

What do you think about Hebrews 1:6-9?

6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”
8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

In these verses we have God the Father Himself, the only true God, calling the Son "O God". "O God" in verse 8 regarding the Son is the same word in Greek used of the Father "God" in verse 9.

Again, I'm not saying God the Father and the Son of God are the same God. They are not. They are one (united), but they have to be different beings to begin with in order for their being one to mean anything. All I'm saying is that Jesus is more than just a man, and in fact, the Father God calls him "O God" here.

Also, what do you think about Hebrews 6:20 - 7:3?

20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.
1 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,
2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”
3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

The Son of God is shown to have no beginning and no end.

Thanks,

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