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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Great list of the many raptures, Carol!
Concerning partial rapture, what about the promise to the church in Philadelphia to save them out of the "hour of trial", which I take to mean the tribulation period? If one thinks there will be one big pre-trib rapture of all the saints, then maybe this promise would seem to apply to everyone. But why would He single out the "church of love" (Philadelphia means love; and the only church besides Smyrna that didn't get a reprimand) with what appears to be a special promise just to them, to keep them from that hour? (that is, if the promise was to keep all Christians from that testing time)
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Thanks for reading the list and getting something out of it STG. Now to your question let me start by saying UH OH! Gulp!
What I'm going to share is something very, very few Christians have given any thought to. I did not realize what I will share until 6 months ago. So this is very, very new insight. I myself am still processing it.
So let me begin. First take a good look at Revelation 3:8-11 Read it slowly a few times if need be.
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‘I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name.
9 Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
10 Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
11 I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
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So like everyone who has read Revelation 2 & 3 and studied it under Christian teachers, we have been conditioned to believe that because the scriptures say: To the 7 churches etc..., it is written to the Gentile Christian church, it is written to us. Watchman Nee wrote a very interesting take on the churches in his book 'The orthodoxy of the church'. The first time I read it, I was very intrigued by it. The next time around, I found some of it biased. Of course Lee had edited the original text I think.. Either way, it was about the gentile church..Smyrna suffered, Thyatira was/is the RCC, Laodecia the lukewarm church...
But here's some food for thought: What does the gentile church have to do with the synagogue of Satan? The scripture states:
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
I have read many opinions of what that means.
Now take a look at Revelation 7:2-4
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I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.”
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
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When we depart, we will be passing the baton if you will to the 144,000 Jewish bondservants from the tribes of ISRAEL. So if you think outside the box, it looks like God is speaking to the 144k in Revelation 3:9 not to 'us'.
I know this thought is wayyyyy, wayyy out there. You might be scratching your head
saying "What planet are your from??"
There is a lot more to the 7 churches but to your question, I will just say I no longer believe the letters to the 7 churches were/are written to us. They are written to the 144,000 Israelites from the 12 tribes of Israel who have the seal of God on their foreheads. They believe in Christ as the Messiah. But the Jews who are from the synagogue of Satan do not. They are like the Pharisees and Saducees.
But God says:
I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you. Do you really think He is talking to us??? We are already out of here. And now God is going to rescue Israel, His wife. He has always loved Israel. They should have been the first to go. But they rejected Jesus..and thus the first (Israel) shall be last and the last (the gentile church) shall be first.
There is a book called "Kingdom of priests" you can download
A Kingdom of Priests (Kindle, FREE):
https://tinyurl.com/AKingdomOfPriests...
OR
Smashwords eBooks (FREE):
https://tinyurl.com/BrendaWeltnerSmas...
OR
for a small fee you can purchase the book from Amazon
A Kingdom of Priests: The Stories of Revelation (Paperback):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
you can also watch the teachings on you tube:
The Tribulation:
https://youtu.be/fjiBEvj-3gM
and there is a playlist of about 16-17 short videos on
Letters to the 7 Churches Playlist:
https://tinyurl.com/BWeltner7Churches
It took guts for me to share what I did because this is stuff we have never been taught. Blessings to all as we see the day soon approaching.
