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Originally Posted by Ohio
Boxjobox, you are not even making sense. John 8, following the situation of the woman caught in adultery, never mentions "the Christ, the messiah, the anointed one." You are reading this into the text. And you are reading out the actual words of the text.
Your continued lengthy replies do not change the truth of this Gospel of John. You conveniently like to alter scripture to suit your predisposed ideas, assuming that Jesus is answering some question that is not even asked. Read the context. Context matters.
Where is the verse in the chapter 8 discussion that says, "are you the Christ?" and Jesus answers "I am [he]?"
And how in the world does your crazy teaching explain 8.56-59?
The Jewish leaders in the Temple knew full well what Jesus just said. Sorry you missed it. Jesus just made Himself equal with God so they immediately picked up stones to kill Him (as also in v. 5.18).
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Ohio, as we know there were no chapters in Johns writings, and John strings events. As I asked yesterday, you need to read chaps 6 to 10 to get the whole context, and in this case particularly chapter 7. The entire dialogue that continues on is are you the Christ- tell us plainly. Seems you have the Jews knowing something about Jesus that his own disciples don’t pick up. Read slowly through 6 to 10. You may want to consider 6: 68-69.
This reveals what the disciples thought of Jesus.
Ohio, the gospel was not preached by these Jews that questioned Jesus, but by the disciples of Christ. They do not preach a Jesus is God gospel
Here is part of Peter’s 2nd gospel, probably spoken to the same Jews that questioned Jesus
Acts 3 13The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go. 14But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, 15and killed the [b]Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. 16And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
And 19Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”
I left out a lot for brevity,so if you doubt the meaning I would encourage yo to read the entire 3rd chapter of Acts, and all of Acts actually.
Do you see the vast difference between what Peter preached as the gospel to the Jews and what you are saying?