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Originally Posted by UntoHim

So Boxy,

To a first century Jew, WHO WAS THE LORD OF THE SABBATH?
Stop your dodging and weaving and shucking and jiving. Why won't you answer this plain and simple question?

To a first century Jew, WHO WAS THE ONLY BEING IN THE UNIVERSE GREATER THAN THE TEMPLE? Stop your dodging and weaving and shucking and jiving. It's kind of embarrassing actually. Why are the Words of Jesus so hard for you to accept? There are many things Jesus said which were not "followed through" in Acts or in any other part of the New Testament. So what?

As for John, you are cherry picking. Again, kind of embarrassing for someone who says he's such a solo scriptura guy!
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - ὁ λόγος ἦν θεὸς[/B] [/B]
The Word was God, Boxy, the Word was God.
"My Lord and my God". -ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου
Maybe we can pray-read these clearly written verses in Greek!

Aren't we having fun arguing over God? The reason I'm not convinced either way is because our witnesses don't agree. Of course we have the preamble in the last gospel, written at the end of the century, by only God knows who.

So we not only don't know who wrote it, but why, and to whom. And why he decided to use a word that was in common currency, amongst Jew and Gentile like.

Proof that it was in common currency, is how it was used in the NT, 330 times. Here's Strong's on it :

Originally Posted by Strong's

G3056
λόγος
logos
log'-os
From G3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ): - account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.
Total KJV occurrences: 330

Then we have 3 other witnesses, also written anonymously :

Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mar_10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luk_18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Each witness had a chance to declare Jesus God, but didn't.

But I have to admit that the Jesus is God group look more cultish than the Jesus is not God group. I think that's because they have the RCC behind them.