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Originally Posted by Ohio
This is a pretty pathetic critique of Moderator UntoHim0. How ironic and disingenuous to equate historic orthodox views of the Trinity on the notion that the church "will remain stuck in the Oh Lord Jesus mantra." No one is more against this practice of vain babbling, taking the Lord's name in vain, than UntoHim.
BJB you are starting to remind me of a misguided Christian we once knew. He also attended the church of one, himself as the only member, and armed himself with a scripture to condemn all others. He was assured that prayer could only be offered to God the Father in a closet (Matt 6.6), and all those churches praying in public must be soundly condemned! You, my friend, appear to have the same judgmental spirit.
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I didn’t think it was pathetic critique but rather a good way to bate Untohim to defend his position. Not sure why you feel a need to speak for him. I have great, great respect for Untohim.
Concerning judgement- I think I have been really consistent over the years to present what I feel is the issue with WL/LSM, with the LC and with Christianity as a whole. I trace it back to the difference between the scriptures and the orthodoxy that took hold in the 4th century. I find this an excellent site to discuss this issue in that most Of us have been through the LC/ Recovery wringer and come out, and I think it is important to see and discuss each of our reactions and how we carry on our lives.
You, by your statements on your last post side with orthodoxy. I have presented reams of scripture that would point out that there was no such teaching in the foundational church we see in scripture. To compare my opinions to someone else is your prerogative, but has no bearing on the discussion, other than to deflect an opinion that you do not hold. You seem happy relating to God as a trinity, and take Jesus as your God- I got that- been there and done that myself- With my history, I could probably argue the trinitarian viewpoint as well as any, but I find it false and damaging to the church. I think it’s an error, whose time has come to eradicate.
If you look on the main site, I see very, very little praise to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus, but a kind of rah rah Jesus thing going on constantly- it’s not an Oh Lord Jesus mantra we all had in the LC, but it is of the same effect- it puts Jesus in a position over God! It reinforces a Jesus is God theology that does not exist in the NT. It is so ingrained in those of you that follow the modern version of the trinity orthodoxy that I don’t even think you are aware of it- it’s a kind of base-brain response and acknowledgement that I really find off the mark of scripture. It creates a false god. If you look at Jesus and Paul’s speaking, it is a constant acknowledgement and praise to the God and Father of Jesus.
Take a look at what is posted on the main site Trinity thread- people are all over the map and just throw up what they think will stick- having no relation to what is practiced by the foundational church- that is pathetic!