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Originally Posted by Ohio
Trapped, great post, spelling out so many truths. What makes conversations with BJB so frustrating are his constant fall backs, saying we are stuck with Lee-isms or old church-isms about trinitarian-isms.
I went so far as to "compromise" with BJB and concede with a "two-person" God, the Father and the Son, in a loving and eternal relationship. But BJB won't acknowledge or identify what he believes about Jesus, the Christ, the Son of the living God. Is He God or not? If not God, based on what? How then can He be eternal, much better than the angels, the Creator of all things, all-knowing, and how could He be sinless. How could He always do God's will, always know what the Father was speaking, always do what pleases Him, always be in the Father's presence? Until those few hours on the cross.
If it wasn't for the same errors inflicting the JW's and other cults throughout church history, identifying biblical truths concerning Jesus Christ, I would have stepped away from this unending discussion long ago.
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Ohio, John, in revelation tells us that God was the creator- this is what the heavenly realm testifies of. This is where your Jesus is God thing ruins the gospel and what we should be considering, meditating on, concerning the man we have as our Lord, who was pleasing to God, who did his will, who was not sinful as we. If you consider this, you can see the marvelous thing, work, God did in Christ. We don’t have the relation Jesus did with God because of sin. Jesus, the man, who knew no sin could have such a relation with God. Now, because of his death,our sins are forgiven and we are brought to God. This is well worth pondering- to live by the faith of the son of God. This man is our mediator, between the One God and us. Let’s not look at our sinfulness, but at the sinless man, Jesus, our savior.
He is much better than the angels, because after fulfilling God’s will by dying for us, God exalted him to the highest position above all creation.