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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Oh what to believe!? So many verses showing that Jesus was subservient to and distinct from the Father. Oh wait, there's also so many verse showing He was God in the flesh! What ever shall we do!!??  Get out the scissors and start removing all those verses that don't line up perfectly!
We'd like to wrap our minds completely around these two, seemingly diametrically opposed sets of scripture describing who the Lord Jesus is, yet it is impossible for our minds to do so! Therefore I must once more quote John Locke, "I cannot fathom the mystery of a single flower; Neither was it intended that I should." (i.e., if we can't get our minds around the awesomeness of a flower, how can we possibly come to grasp the exact nature of God come in the flesh?)
May He shine light into our humble minds bros.
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For 17 centuries it has been stated that, Jesus was one hundred percent human and one hundred percent God.
And ever since it's been, God God God, that Christians have been obsessed with concerning Jesus. The human half -- or whole, they say - get that, Jesus was wholly human -- has been cast aside. Some early Christians completely denied the human side of Jesus altogether (Thus 1 John 4:2). So despite 1 John 4:2, the human side of Jesus has been ignored not only for 17 centuries, but even beginning in the first century, when the New Testament was written.
And if you think the divinity of Jesus is unfathomable, consider the human side. We have less about that than the divinity side. For goodness sake, we don't even know what made Jesus laugh.
So the mystery of Jesus had to be settled by the creeds, centuries later --that's when homousious was cooked up, by votes. This process came to be called The Emergence of the Catholic Tradition [orthodoxy], that started with Constantine in the early 4th c, at Nicaea.
So for over 2 centuries now there's been what is called The Quest for the Historical Jesus. And you know what, the quest has gone nowhere.
In the end, we not only have conflicting verses concerning the divinity of Jesus, we don't have enough information about Jesus to solved anything about the human historical Jesus. So Bible scholars end up with nothing but guesses and suppositions.
Oddly, orthodoxy differed than orthodoxy today, cuz modalists signed the creed of Nicaea, but later came to be anathematized by Emperor Constantine.
Ultimately, the orthodoxy bro Untohim stands upon today, was developed by the Roman Catholic Church of Constantine, and following creeds ... and even the Biblical Canon of today -- developed by Eusebius (friend of Constantine), that because of Montanus and the New Prophecy, deliberately avoided the Holy Spirit when selecting the books ; thus, the canon selection was uninspired.
I think, in the end, we're just going to have to embrace the mystery. We can't even fathom a flower, how can we ever hope to fathom God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit ; it's -- they're -- unfathomable.