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Trapped · 06-27-2020, 01:15 AM

BJB, you mentioned "trinitarian influence" a few posts prior. I just finished reading Matthew again today and toward the end of it is Matthew 28:19 - Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Funnily enough, wikipedia says this about that verse, I kid you not: "This verse is part of the Great Commission narrative, containing the command to go, teach and baptize new disciples with the trinitarian formula."

Obviously this is one verse probably many Triune-holders point to. When you read it what is your takeaway given that "name" is singular and there are three names associated to it?

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I haven't read everything you've posted, but some of what you've said reminds me of Herbert Armstrong's teachings. If I understood it correctly, I think he (or some who follow his teachings) makes a distinction between "God" and "God-kind". In other words, God the Father is "the one true God" just as Jesus refers to His Father as, i.e. GOD. And Jesus, the Son of God, isn't GOD because He's the Son of God, but as the Son of God He is still considered "God-kind". In this way, Jesus thus retains a sense of deity and ever-existence without being "the one true God" or "GOD".....which is, as already stated, the Father. I've seen some posters give you grief for not saying Jesus is God......would you agree with Jesus being at least "God-kind" or no?

06-27-2020, 01:15 AM	#55
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Boxjobox on modalism BJB, you mentioned "trinitarian influence" a few posts prior. I just finished reading Matthew again today and toward the end of it is Matthew 28:19 - Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit Funnily enough, wikipedia says this about that verse, I kid you not: "This verse is part of the Great Commission narrative, containing the command to go, teach and baptize new disciples with the trinitarian formula." Obviously this is one verse probably many Triune-holders point to. When you read it what is your takeaway given that "name" is singular and there are three names associated to it? ======= I haven't read everything you've posted, but some of what you've said reminds me of Herbert Armstrong's teachings. If I understood it correctly, I think he (or some who follow his teachings) makes a distinction between "God" and "God-kind". In other words, God the Father is "the one true God" just as Jesus refers to His Father as, i.e. GOD. And Jesus, the Son of God, isn't GOD because He's the Son of God, but as the Son of God He is still considered "God-kind". In this way, Jesus thus retains a sense of deity and ever-existence without being "the one true God" or "GOD".....which is, as already stated, the Father. I've seen some posters give you grief for not saying Jesus is God......would you agree with Jesus being at least "God-kind" or no?