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Old 06-26-2020, 04:28 AM   #39
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Default Re: Boxjobox on modalism

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Ohio, yes the Jews often plotted to kill the apostles, but NOT because they preached Jesus is Jehovah. Read through the account of Stephen- what really ticked them off was his saying he saw the glory of God and Jesus standing by His right hand. I would encourage you to look through the book of Acts, and consider what was said each time the gospel was preached. If you find a Jesus is Jehovah gospel, I really would like to discuss it. But look how God is spoken of and how Christ is revealed. No recording of apostles being killed because of a Jesus is God message. And this is what I mean, how a true recovery, and a ministry of recovery would lift up the whole view of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus and place Christ as resurrected and empowered at the right hand of God. Consider also carefully the wording in Galatians, where Paul explained his gospel and warns against different gospel. Read carefully 1Cor. 15 where Paul speaks of the gospel he presents. If the correct ministry had been there in the recovery, the ministry of the scripture, we all would have had a healthy understanding and worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. The whole trinity thing did not exist in the foundational church- it wasn’t preached.

James tells Paul to go to the temple and offer. He also says do you see the multitude of Jews who believe including priests. Do you really think this multitude of Jews were confessing Jesus is Jehovah? That would have been civil war!
No, the Holy Spirit just does not testify to Jesus is Jehovah. John sums up his gospel stating that it was written so that we would believe that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God, and that we may have life in his name. Jesus speaks that eternal life comes through knowing the Father, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He sent. This is the testimony of John.
You keep bringing up "true recovery," and I would rather discuss "true Bible." This seems to be happening on every thread nowadays. Some folks need to realize that you will not find the truth by throwing out everything from the LC's.

The Bible testifies that Jesus is Jehovah. I gave you one example. Many more exist.

When Thomas said after the resurrection, "my Lord and my God!" Why didn't Jesus correct him? Perhaps Jesus was still shaken up by those 3 days in the tomb, but John knew better, eh? Why didn't John set Thomas straight? He was the "doubter" afterall, so now both Jesus and John are heretics for allowing Thomas to worship Jesus as God.

In every other case in the Bible, when someone tried to worship the angel or messenger of God, the person was immediately stopped. Don't you think it was quite arrogant of Jesus to accept worship as God? Perhaps God scolded Him when He ascended to the throne?

The testimony of John is his entire Gospel, not just your hand-picked verses, which I also treasure.
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