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Old 05-18-2020, 12:58 PM   #67
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Default Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
As recently as 5 years ago, an ex-LC elder repeated to me that no one lost money in Daystar. "But I read that many lost a lot of money..." "I told you everyone got their money back!"

But how would he know? He was just repeating what he had heard. Why is it that TC was always reluctant to hitch his wagon to any Anaheim program, yet when the dust settled, TC would honor WL, but blame all of his lieutenants for the fiasco? You would think that one day one of the Ohio elders would have woken up and said that "something don't smell right here."
In one way or another, LC elders learn that their good-standing within the movement is dependent upon their compliance as well as only speaking 'positively' about things that they might disagree with.

I saw this time and time again. I can think of a number of instances where the elders were uncomfortable with whatever the latest push was, but ultimately caved in, fearing the outcome if they were to not go along with it.

I think the following post highlights just how quickly things went south for someone who sought to speak truthfully about Daystar and WL.

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Originally Posted by Elden1971 View Post
Thanks for asking about my "excommunication". In an attempt to help a young brother that I brought to the church in OKC who was under condemnation for his personal failings I told him all have sinned and come short of the glory of the Lord and even our dear Bro. Lee had done illegal acts and the Lord had forgiven him and was still using him. This helped the brother and we prayed and he left. The next day he apparently shared his testimony with another brother who immediately reported to James Barber that I had said Bro. Lee had done illegal acts. James called an emergency meeting of the elders and called me to come meet with them. Upon arrival James informed me that what I said was a lie and unless I repented I would be excommunicated. Of course what I had said was the truth regarding Bro. Lee committing illegal acts was absolutely true and I had been intimately involved in helping Francis Ball prepare his legal defense had he been caught (in retrospect what I said about Lee repenting may have been wrong) but suffice it to say I was in a real quandary. If I am to stay in Fellowship then I must say what I said was a lie when in fact it was the truth. I did not have the peace to uncover the sins of Bro. Lee even though I knew he was guilty so I reflected inwardly and said Lord I choose You and the Spirit of Glory fell upon me. I said nothing in my defense and James pronounced my excommunication and the other elders nodded in agreement(two of whom I had brought to the church the other two appointed by Benson. Only James had spoken and thus I was excommunicated from the church in OKC that had been birthed in my heart and started in my home
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