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Originally Posted by Nell
Aron, what are you saying?  sorry.
Nell |
Kinda like, 'wake up'. A Great Awakening. We can't wake up unless we realise how asleep we've been.
And sorry for the incoherence. It was a kind of stream-of-consciousness that could have used a LOT of editing. But I typically use this forum as a kind of notebook, to see if I make any sense, and sometimes the answer is, "Not much".
My 'larger point' that I was trying to put the conversation into was that the Christian Expression over 2,000 years has been arguably lacking, given the fact that at least 3 times during that span the Christian polity (church, Body, whatever) had full access to present its story. So now, people who say that Christians have to get the Message back to the World, I'm like, "What message are we trying to get out?" I mean, look at what we've been saying, collectively, for 18 centuries.
(And the wacko groups and ministers like Nee & Lee have been functioning in that vacuum. I went into the LC from Protestantism because it wasn't working very well for me. So I got seduced.)
And I was trying to reference successful ministries - "Christian leaders" - which impact on the larger conversation, Revived or Awakened or not, like John Piper (and Jonathan Cahn, who received similar discussion some months ago) in that broader picture. Whether they are charlatans or prophets. How to discern from the clamor of voices out there, sounding various trumpets.
But it was all slapdash and I apologize for that.