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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Thanks for your answer to this thread's poll questions! You are the first to put an outright F1: "A completely different Christ" & "Was and is a tool of Satan."
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I equivocated, and probably will continue to do so, feeling that God alone is judge, and doesn't go by polls. Yet I don't feel remiss to view this group as among the worst of the worst, and think prudence and wisdom would counsel to avoid them completely, and warn those having escaped to shed any residual influence. Nothing of this group that I've seen stands up to scrutiny. The more you look, the worse it gets.
Another F1 group: The International Churches of Christ of Kip McKean
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2...rist-religion/
I view ICOC as pseudo-Christian mind control group. The death of Jesus on the cross is incidental, as is his resurrection 3 days later. Those are bit players in their passion play, to make disciples for their Hive. I met with them for a spell during college, and do they ever put pressure on you! They'll get you to doubt everything you ever knew. Like the LC, they isolate vulnerable college students and aren't done until they're remade in their image, and out seeking others to infect with their mind virus. They literally break your will and erase your mind.
Some blanch to put WL's group in with such clearly nefarious pseudo-Christian groups, but I ask, how many people has Marshall Applewhite destroyed lately? And how many has the LC? In the 90's I heard WL speak of 15 to 20 million adherents in the PRC, and 12 years later LSM spokesman Chris Wilde said there were none [left?]. God only knows what happened. Oh, but you see that's a confusion around labels, says DCP. Witness Lee talked of the "shouters", you see, but the "shouters" of Chris Wilde were different. Yes, there's good shouters and bad shouters. And of course LSM knows the difference but they can't talk anymore because of persecution. And so on.. wherever one looks there's dissimulation and prevarication, there's a shell game of words, and who knows where the pea's hiding. And what one sees, repeatedly, are classic mind control techniques. Which is why I listed all those groups earlier. The patterns are strong and fairly consistent.
The gospel of Jesus Christ is become unrecognizable in their hands. Initially I thought it was because they'd taken Paul's writings and supercharged Jesus, but now I realise it's because they took Paul's writings and eliminated Jesus. We got an abstract Processed Triune God, whom we masticate to become God in life and nature. And the story of the actual Jesus and the actual people who followed him in the gospels and Acts got effaced. It's an entirely different spirit at work in the narrative's formation and dissemination. It's a different gospel in the clearest sense of the word.
I saw a movie where the main character, a thief and a rogue, says to his accomplice, "The best scam is where the victim doesn't know they've been had". (~Paul Newman, The Sting.) Likewise, the most effective control is where the mark doesn't know they're being controlled. Their thoughts are no longer their own, and they've lost critical faculties, and are fully reflexive.
"Controlled?!? We're not controlled! Hey everyone, let's sing stanza 4 again, 'Just be simple, don't be hardened, drop your concepts, eat that tree!'" Just be simple, indeed - the LC turns thinking people into simpletons. And that's the best of it. The worst is perhaps as bad as any Krazy Kult out there. But the Lord knows how many were crushed into the dirt, who were drained and tossed aside. The Lord knows each one.