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Originally Posted by aron
It's in human nature to point out all the things that line up with one's view, and ignore the rest. In some cases, the quantity ignored is substantial. In this case, what's ignored is that the "private approach" didn't work for Steve Isitt, Bill Mallon, John Ingalls, and with many others. The pattern is clear. But we don't care about that, do we - it's not helpful to our position.
So Greg and Joanna Casteel failed to follow NT due process, and this crossed the line with God's government, and LC leadership isn't responsible for what happened... yet what of all those who followed NT due process? They got railroaded. Then, due process didn't matter, God's governing commands were ignored, it was "we don't care for right and wrong, just for life".
Stick around in the LC, and you end up with these moving sets of rules. When it's convenient, the rules go one way. When it's no longer convenient, they flip 180 degrees. And nobody's supposed to notice.
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Right. The problem is that the leadership doesn't respond in the way the Bible commands them to.
Concerned saints have "followed protocol" for decades, going to the elders and/or co-workers about what they see, but the brothers in the lead do not respond as they should, in other words, "if he hears you".
They don't "hear", they pay lip service and then avoid.
If you then bring more people, they still don't hear but call it rebellion.
If you then tell the church, they still don't hear but call it opposition and divisiveness.
And you are then ostracized and shunned.
The very thing that is supposed to happen to the leading ones for not "hearing" is the very thing that happens to the ones concerned.
I know of volcanic situations brought to leading brothers, who then spend weeks and months futzing around, kicking the ball around while the saints choking to death on the destruction happening just die and disappear because no one would do anything.
The co-workers are nothing like the apostles in the Bible that they claim to be.