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Originally Posted by Curious
RK is right to let the vengeance be in God’s hands, He testifies to that in the talk at the top of this thread, it’s God’s to repay, not ours, David says so too. But RK’s own heart is the thing that is wrong, so he has misconstrued the whole thing as a result.
Ron Kangas has not lamented for the hearts of those lost to the LC. His rants directed at Steve Isitt, and all the others he has named and cursed with his words do not even hint at the process David embarked upon as preparation to become a leader of ‘Israel’, (either that of the past or RK’s idea of a present equivalent). Even using his reference to the ground opening up and swallowing those who rebelled in Moses’ time….Moses did not will that punishment on the people. It was God’s doing, not Moses!! [Numbers 16:28]. Not RK’s place to decree the judgement.
He may well have felt ‘attacked’ by these people, he may have expressed his ‘fallen human concepts’ about it all as David did, if you want to refer to it that way. But he has done this publicly and repeatedly, over time. He has not gotten to the place of honouring and protecting those he is at odds with, as David did. David chose to treat Saul with honour in spite that Saul’s intentions towards David were indeed wicked. (That is not the same thing as seeking to speak a corrective word, as RK’s enemies have only sought to do).
Even putting that point aside, RK still fails to reflect God’s character at all.
Furthermore, this principle is stated in the NT:
Luke 6:28; ‘Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you’
Romans 12: 14 ‘Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse!’
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Totally agree. I've had some of these thoughts too. Moses did not stand there blustering about how he had authority and yet was going to commit the evil rebellion into God's sovereign hand to deal with. He did not say "God you can swallow these people alive into the earth if you want, I give it to You". He just gave it to God without the posturing.
And earlier in Numbers when God punished Miriam, Moses immediately asked for her healing. He asked God to heal the very person who had just rebelled against him!
I have heard "low pastors" from "evil Christianity" handle situations of "attack" in a much more humble, Christ-like, prayerful way than these guys ever have.
This is why Jo Casteel's prayer at her husband's funeral to "speak blessings to the local churches" was so amazing. Because it was so opposite from what we heard from the local church itself.