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Originally Posted by Curious
I believe that to be the dynamic behind it. according to writings here, and my own experience with LCers, it appears that all correction in the LC seems to be directed towards the ‘little potatoes’ and comes with the side-dish of deliberate humiliation, designed to make humility and confession a terrifying experience and one to be avoided. This spreads the need to persecute wrong outside of self, as there is no dignity in humility from within this system. Those up in the system displacing their own shame onto others more vulnerable than themselves. please correct me if I'm wrong. I hope I am but don't see the evidence.
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Yes, displaced shame is the currency of the realm. Newbies are seduced by its perceived benefits - "Nobody is enjoying God the way we do! We're on the proper ground! Etc!" - but eventually the screws turn.
I pointed to guanxi because it has deep historical roots and has explanatory power. It seemed odd that WL meekly allowed his sons to damage what he'd worked so hard to build, until one sees that he built his guanxi for his family. To him it wasn't odd at all - it was necessary.
And I keep bringing up the succouring of the poor, and its consistent stress in the NT, to highlight the variance with LC practice. To them, it doesn't build guanxi.
More to the point, I noticed that Americans would dump their non-LC family members, but Chinese would not. Jesus had taught to "hate your father and mother" that wouldn't go along, and "Who is my father and mother and brother and sister" (Mark 3:35; Matt 12:49,50), but to the LC Chinese (by and large) these verses didn't exist, because they couldn't exist. The guanxi wouldn't allow it.
When one sees MC positioning himself within the context of WL's guanxi, it makes sense. Orthodoxy is secondary, even irrelevant.