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. . . but I'm starting to think that you, like Galli, are more upset with Christians who dare to support Trump, than Trump himself. A sure sign of the deleterious effects of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump derangement syndrome is really a delusion that Trump is the god that he thinks he is. I do not necessarily disagree with the politics of people who decided that Trump was the lesser evil in the 2016 election. But I disagree that the whole of Christian morality and action should be in ranting about abortion and LGBQ?? issues in a manner that is more like the heathen we claim to be trying to stop.

And once again you conflate disagreement with the manner of how evangelicals have gone about trying to force their morality on the heathen (and once again gotten into bed with the world of politics) with agreement with the other side of the issues in question. Just one more proof that your head is stuck in the same mire that those Christian leaders are stuck in.

Conservatives have witnessed the eroding of civil and religious liberties for centuries, and Trump is attempting to reverse that, by ending judicial activism.

And is it the Christian thing to do to force Christian morality on the world, and insist on our "right" to have it better than anyone else in the entire world? I am not sure what Bible you have been reading.

Obviously, by siding with the atheistic and amoral Left . . .

Do you see everything so harshly black-and-white that disagreeing on anything is to side with the opponents? Do you suppose that every Republican who does not go along with the Jack-booted, xenophobic, racist nonsense of the most extreme right-wing of the party must be bleeding liberals? If you do then . . . well, we are not supposed to talk about others on the forum in such derogatory terms. Do you presume that every issue is simply divided between "righteous Republicans" and "communist/socialist liberal Democrats?" Then you deserve the narcissistic buffon that turns every issue into one about himself.

My complaint is not just that Jeffress and the rest are supporting Trump, but that they are going all-in on forcing some kind of theocratic law of morality that we would never allow for if it was Islamic law or Buddhist law. We even go so far as to assert that Islamic regimes should simply be overthrown and turned into democratic republics.

The sin of abortion does not reflect on you. America is not going to return to some nation "blessed by God" if we manage to brow-beat all the lawyers into changing the laws. The church should be finding a way to take stands that encourage change in the minds and hearts of the people, preferably resulting in bringing them into the kingdom of light. We have taken the moniker of "Christian soldiers" much farther than was ever intended. Paul never intended to unleash a gang of political thugs on the nations of the world (of which America is just one of many) to force them to act like the kingdom of God without actually being in the kingdom of God.

We are to be salt and light, not battering ram and noose.

I don't like Trump. I honestly believe that he has committed crimes worthy of impeachment. I don't care whether you agree with me on that. I don't care whether Republicans or Democrats agree or disagree with me on it.

But no matter what, until he is removed from office by election or impeachment (which is also what Galli said) I believe that the country will survive. Even 4 more years. But I do believe that allowing things to stand as they are will damage this republic much more greatly than impeaching a president will. My opinion. Not influenced by Nancy, Cooper, Cuomo, or any of the others who also oppose him.

Only you could think that Trump is worse than the one impeached 20 years ago. Trump threw Jeffrey Epstein out of MaraLago, Clinton however joined him, enabled him, played with him, and protected him.

Only me? You haven't been paying attention. Whether or not impeachment is justified or succeeds, many, if not most, people think that. To say that "ony I" could think that is nothing short of a lie. Or evidence that you are only getting your news from one source.

Interesting that you refer to Brett Kavanaugh as "hotly contested." Obviously you believed some of his accusers. That alone discredits your ability to discern false witnesses and unrighteousness.

Saying it was hotly contested did not make any comment on the quality of the contest other than its problems. However, as poor and questionable as some of the stories that surfaced were, they were neven simply dismissable because of the way they were introduced or the questions raised about the events mentioned. I would admit to having reservations given the nature of what he DID somewhat admit to, but was also inclined to allow for a length of time with a completely different demeanor and a decent body of legal and judicial work to indicate that the person being considered was not (or at least no longer) that youthful fool that was being charged.

But I also took note of some of the testimony concerning questions by both sides trying to get some kind of "litmus" read on him, and unless he was lying, do not see him as ready to overturn Roe v Wade or so many other rulings since.

Your comments about "vilifying certain non-Christians" are straight from the democratic talking points.

I have never heard any Democrats say anything like that. It is my own observation as a human and moderate/conservative Republican. Go lie about someone else.