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Originally Posted by Ohio
Your last comment defies all common sense. Trump is pro-life. He is against abortion. On this matter alone, Trump gets the support of real Christians.
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That is a significant issue. But it is not the entirety of morality.
And even yet another conservative judge on SCOTUS is not going to end abortion. It is engrained in the minds of people as a legitimate option. They do not agree that life begins at conception. If they did, they could not simply declare it to be a "choice." Or a "right." The most that SCOTUS could do is remove some of the federal-level control on the issue. So it reverts to the states where people have generally ceased thinking of abortion as a basis for voting for or against particular persons. As long as there is major support, we are just moving the issue downhill. And the result will be, at best, that there is more restriction on late-term abortions. And that might happen anyway. But it will not go away — even in the most conservative states.
The need is not for heightened criminalization, but changes in the thinking of the people who somehow think they have no other choice (thus elimination the perception of choice in the matter). They need support and help from loving people, not angry shouts from the Pharisees who think this is a theocracy and are trying to avert God's banishing us to a new Babylon.
And what did we get for our compromise? For our trading of one moral issue for all others? Mostly meaningless support for an issue that will probably not be impacted at the levels imagined anyway. No matter what the justices personally think, they tend to reject taking on cases that involve decided issues. So even the hotly-contested Cavenaugh will likely have no impact on the issue.
And on the flip side, we accepted a man worse than the one we tried to impeach 20+ years ago for just being a philanderer and trying to hide it. We declare him to be our Cyrus. Really? More like Jezebel. And we invite him into our churches. We are doing exactly what the church did when Constantine came along. Accepting state invovlement so we can dictate how things will be.
Blessed are those who gain access to the power of the state for they shall be able to bring in the kingdom of God quicker than God could without it.
Blessed are they who demonize everyone who is not like them or come from s#!t#0l3 nations.
Blessed are they who praise filth in the hopes that they might gain the right to punish sinners in this age rather than allowing them to wait for whatever punishment is to come in the next age.
I'm sorry. That part of the beatitudes is missing from my Bible!
And vilifying certain non-Christians just because some of their numbers might be terrorists doesn't fit with loving your neighbor as yourself. From where I sit, it suggests either some extreme self-loathing . . . or rejection of that particular command as just being over. As Lee would say, because the law has ended.
I likely won't return on this topic, so save your breath (and electrons). Mark Galli was absolutely right. There are a lot of evangelicals that need to rethink what it means to be spiritual.