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Curious · 11-21-2019, 02:27 PM

In my post no.23 I listed some books and online resources that I have used myself to look into areas that need help when a person is recovering from an abusive system.

To clarify, I know that secular help can address all these topics as just as well, and be better available. The benefit of including Christian based ones is they help to give a theological, scriptural back-up where a Christian can embrace the concept that God approves too! It’s His will for you to embrace these changes. And that really helps to unravel the mental conditioning that pre-exists in the person’s psyche.

The ‘boundaries’ book sub-title: ‘when to say yes, when to say no, to take control of your life’ this may sound like taking control that should be God’s not ours. The key is: We can’t give control to God that which we don’t own in the first place. If the control of our ‘yes’ and ‘no’ belongs to that guy over there, or that group over here, then we don’t have the choice to give it to God. It actually belongs to ‘them’ not us. We have to know the freedom to own it ourselves first, know it as our possession TO be able to submit it to Him. Also, having our yes and no misused by others can make it harder to trust God with it and further set us back from being able to really give it to Him.

On the matter of forgiveness I have a comment. The understanding and expectation the LC leadership promote to its followers is the Chinese religious model not the biblical one.

The Chinese goddess of mercy is named Guan yin. Personified as a woman usually looking rather floaty and serene. Guan yin deals with ‘sin’ by EXCUSING it. that’s how it works in the eastern religious system. This cultural mindset is contrary to Christianity and the harm it can do is well documented elsewhere on this forum. It is why all situations of accountability mentioned in the bible, especially form the prophets etc are ignored by the LC leadership and their twistings of the Noah story etc are cited. They have been used to back the practise and thinking of another religious system.

Biblical forgiveness actually exposes and names sin. It identifies and confronts it and is already willing to reconcile, bestow its blessing. However it requires acknowledgement from the offender in order to be received. The offender can only benefit from it and submit to some consequences as a result, if they hear, receive, and repent. Like the city of Ninevah is a good example. That is the pattern God has provided for the provision of forgiveness. Not excusing sin. Not His idea or plan. That is just giving licence to a system that is actually in rebellion to God.

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Curious Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 186	Re: Curious! In my post no.23 I listed some books and online resources that I have used myself to look into areas that need help when a person is recovering from an abusive system. To clarify, I know that secular help can address all these topics as just as well, and be better available. The benefit of including Christian based ones is they help to give a theological, scriptural back-up where a Christian can embrace the concept that God approves too! It’s His will for you to embrace these changes. And that really helps to unravel the mental conditioning that pre-exists in the person’s psyche. The ‘boundaries’ book sub-title: ‘when to say yes, when to say no, to take control of your life’ this may sound like taking control that should be God’s not ours. The key is: We can’t give control to God that which we don’t own in the first place. If the control of our ‘yes’ and ‘no’ belongs to that guy over there, or that group over here, then we don’t have the choice to give it to God. It actually belongs to ‘them’ not us. We have to know the freedom to own it ourselves first, know it as our possession TO be able to submit it to Him. Also, having our yes and no misused by others can make it harder to trust God with it and further set us back from being able to really give it to Him. On the matter of forgiveness I have a comment. The understanding and expectation the LC leadership promote to its followers is the Chinese religious model not the biblical one. The Chinese goddess of mercy is named Guan yin. Personified as a woman usually looking rather floaty and serene. Guan yin deals with ‘sin’ by EXCUSING it. that’s how it works in the eastern religious system. This cultural mindset is contrary to Christianity and the harm it can do is well documented elsewhere on this forum. It is why all situations of accountability mentioned in the bible, especially form the prophets etc are ignored by the LC leadership and their twistings of the Noah story etc are cited. They have been used to back the practise and thinking of another religious system. Biblical forgiveness actually exposes and names sin. It identifies and confronts it and is already willing to reconcile, bestow its blessing. However it requires acknowledgement from the offender in order to be received. The offender can only benefit from it and submit to some consequences as a result, if they hear, receive, and repent. Like the city of Ninevah is a good example. That is the pattern God has provided for the provision of forgiveness. Not excusing sin. Not His idea or plan. That is just giving licence to a system that is actually in rebellion to God.