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Curious · 10-19-2019, 12:26 AM

(I’m going to continue with what I put on the ‘you tube discusses the local church’ thread, onto this thread as I don’t want to dominate Cals’s space with my thoughts).
…And my thoughts have been developing since my last comment, linking WL to his own words, which help reveal his misadventure.

If you look into the science of ‘statement analysis’, you can find that most criminals give themselves away with their own words- if you know what to look for and how to interpret them.

I now have the dragging feeling that WL’s ‘Economy Of God’ had a purpose all along.
Considering himself to be God’s only ‘deputy’, setting up his own ‘economy’ to benefit himself and family personally. He had already set up an environment to make this logically acceptable to the members of the LC. In other words, he was just reflecting the nature and pattern of behaviour of the ‘god’ he has successfully portrayed through his teachings: they work together to give him both licence and permission: god’s economy means business is His intention, and WL has the deputy authority to behave in like manner to god. Is this the real purpose behind these teachings? Its my new question.

I invite some consideration from those more aquainted with it all than I.

To explore this can I start with the following question: Can we group all his teachings into one of the following categories:?
1. Laying the trap, ie ensnaring people
2. Cutting off the outside (balancing) influences
3. Tightening the chords; drawing in the nets
4. Fleecing the flock

Am I being too hard on him?

Might he have carefully and diligently constructed all of this ON PURPOSE? Cal sees that Watchman Nee returned to his former role, after being axed for wrong behaviour, prepared to entrench his position this time, with a fresh (and self-contradicting) theological approach all worked out in order to achieve it. Could WL have done the same?

WL sought to get away with, the second time, that which caused for him problems in Taiwan the first time…setting up his own business in an unethical way, for his own personal gain. He possibly took a more considered approach, prepared the way better, developing teachings in a skilfull and deliberate way, and then sought to do the same unethical business again in America, but on a bigger scale!!

Were his motives corrupt all along? Or was it an instinctive thing that he just found himself doing?

I guess we’ll never know how deliberate it could have been. It would be comforting to give him some benefit of the doubt….yet to systematically assign his major theological assertions to the above list of main hidden purposes, might help expose his errors in a way effective for those confused and troubled by it all. (After all, people have committed suicide over being in the fallout from WL’s' brain babies', it is very serious). Or maybe it’s (perhaps), just my latest wild idea!!

By the way. My earlier list of DIM, for domination, intimidation and manipulation…..I have to add deception to the list. Another aspect of ungodly control is to deceive people. its such a powerful tool but I’d never seen it before to add to that essential list. So now it has to be DIMD for short! I guess once DIMD factors are all at work, the light of truth is ‘dimmed’ well and truly!

10-19-2019, 12:26 AM	#20
Curious Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 186	Re: Curious! (I’m going to continue with what I put on the ‘you tube discusses the local church’ thread, onto this thread as I don’t want to dominate Cals’s space with my thoughts). …And my thoughts have been developing since my last comment, linking WL to his own words, which help reveal his misadventure. If you look into the science of ‘statement analysis’, you can find that most criminals give themselves away with their own words- if you know what to look for and how to interpret them. I now have the dragging feeling that WL’s ‘Economy Of God’ had a purpose all along. Considering himself to be God’s only ‘deputy’, setting up his own ‘economy’ to benefit himself and family personally. He had already set up an environment to make this logically acceptable to the members of the LC. In other words, he was just reflecting the nature and pattern of behaviour of the ‘god’ he has successfully portrayed through his teachings: they work together to give him both licence and permission: god’s economy means business is His intention, and WL has the deputy authority to behave in like manner to god. Is this the real purpose behind these teachings? Its my new question. I invite some consideration from those more aquainted with it all than I. To explore this can I start with the following question: Can we group all his teachings into one of the following categories:? 1. Laying the trap, ie ensnaring people 2. Cutting off the outside (balancing) influences 3. Tightening the chords; drawing in the nets 4. Fleecing the flock Am I being too hard on him? Might he have carefully and diligently constructed all of this ON PURPOSE? Cal sees that Watchman Nee returned to his former role, after being axed for wrong behaviour, prepared to entrench his position this time, with a fresh (and self-contradicting) theological approach all worked out in order to achieve it. Could WL have done the same? WL sought to get away with, the second time, that which caused for him problems in Taiwan the first time…setting up his own business in an unethical way, for his own personal gain. He possibly took a more considered approach, prepared the way better, developing teachings in a skilfull and deliberate way, and then sought to do the same unethical business again in America, but on a bigger scale!! Were his motives corrupt all along? Or was it an instinctive thing that he just found himself doing? I guess we’ll never know how deliberate it could have been. It would be comforting to give him some benefit of the doubt….yet to systematically assign his major theological assertions to the above list of main hidden purposes, might help expose his errors in a way effective for those confused and troubled by it all. (After all, people have committed suicide over being in the fallout from WL’s' brain babies', it is very serious). Or maybe it’s (perhaps), just my latest wild idea!! By the way. My earlier list of DIM, for domination, intimidation and manipulation…..I have to add deception to the list. Another aspect of ungodly control is to deceive people. its such a powerful tool but I’d never seen it before to add to that essential list. So now it has to be DIMD for short! I guess once DIMD factors are all at work, the light of truth is ‘dimmed’ well and truly!