[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by aron

The record shows Lily Hsu was a new believer, young, impressionable, weak in faith, who subsequently renounced both God and Watchman Nee. Her decades-later memories of a show trial in 1950s China don't constitute proof, or even meaningful evidence, of Watchman Nee's culpability.

aron I think you're selling Dr. Hsu a little short here. While her backsliding after the fact is heart wrenching and disappointing, it does not make her a liar. In fact, her public admission and confession of her failures only bolsters her credibility in my view. (note: MY view) The meaningful evidence comes from the testimony of two of the girls/women that were abused at the hand of Watchman Nee. I believe Lily Hsu's testimony of their testimony. As I have previously stated on this forum, I hope and pray that God will see fit to have others who were alive at the time (and the number is getting fewer and fewer) come forward to confirm Hsu's testimony. Unfortunately, I suspect that many are still entrapped within the bowels of Communist China, or are entrapped within a Local Church system which does not allow for even the slightest notion of fault or sin to be attributed to Watchman Nee or Witness Lee. May God have mercy.

But what about the facts of Daystar Motor Homes? . It wasn't an anomaly but rather fit a pattern.

And Watchman's indiscretions fit the pattern of sexual, psychological and spiritual abuse in the Local Church.

Let me give a quick personal testimony. I once was extremely resistant to hearing anything about, much less believing, that Watchman Nee or Witness Lee could condone or allow, much, much less participate in anything immoral or sinful. Of course the first demigod to fall was Witness. I even strongly resisted believing anything about "the fermentation of the present rebellion" until I heard the personal testimony of many trusted and esteemed brothers, including John Ingalls, who related many of the things to me personally in his living room. At that point it was not just "smoke" to be concerned with, the flames of the fire were blazing bright right before my eyes. Denial was futile.

So, to carry forth the "where there's smoke there's fire" analogy, that while I would fully admit that Dr. Hsu's book seems to be pointing to us to a lot of thick, dark smoke....I have to believe that this smoke is obscuring the raging flames of a massive inferno. We've seen too much. We've heard too much. We now know too much to think otherwise. Denial is futile. May God have mercy.