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Raptor · 09-26-2019, 12:37 PM

There are several issues that I cannot resolve, mainly because the word does not seem to go into that much detail.

1.) there is no clear verse or passages that define outer darkness lasting 1,000 years specifically. The idea is built on a couple of assumptions.

2.) there is no teaching that attempts to balance out the 1,000 year discipline with the possibility that there would be relative punishments, that is, one 273 years, another 750, another 493, depending on the condition of each believer.

(Actually I was in a conference with Benson Phillips speaking and as a side note while he was mentioning the 1,000 years he said something like, "....1,000 years or if one gets 500 years, or whatever the number...". Something like that, specifically alluding to the possibility of some relative number or years. I remember how the audience reacted audibly with "what?....", and "oooohhhh wow" and "huh....?". There were obvious reactions, surprised looks and such all over. First and only time I ever heard that in the Recovery.)

3.) The Bible does clearly say that dead believers will go to Paradise, but there are not many details about what happens there, except general stuff, like we are sleeping, that we are with the Lord, Lazarus was comforted by Abraham. There is no details about what our experience there might be or what happens for example to a really bad, backslidden believer when he goes to Paradise. Is he at peace, ashamed? (the judgment seat of Christ with rewards and disciplines is after we resurrect from Paradise).

09-26-2019, 12:37 PM	#109
Raptor Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 414	Re: 1,000 Years of Outer Darkness There are several issues that I cannot resolve, mainly because the word does not seem to go into that much detail. 1.) there is no clear verse or passages that define outer darkness lasting 1,000 years specifically. The idea is built on a couple of assumptions. 2.) there is no teaching that attempts to balance out the 1,000 year discipline with the possibility that there would be relative punishments, that is, one 273 years, another 750, another 493, depending on the condition of each believer. (Actually I was in a conference with Benson Phillips speaking and as a side note while he was mentioning the 1,000 years he said something like, "....1,000 years or if one gets 500 years, or whatever the number...". Something like that, specifically alluding to the possibility of some relative number or years. I remember how the audience reacted audibly with "what?....", and "oooohhhh wow" and "huh....?". There were obvious reactions, surprised looks and such all over. First and only time I ever heard that in the Recovery.) 3.) The Bible does clearly say that dead believers will go to Paradise, but there are not many details about what happens there, except general stuff, like we are sleeping, that we are with the Lord, Lazarus was comforted by Abraham. There is no details about what our experience there might be or what happens for example to a really bad, backslidden believer when he goes to Paradise. Is he at peace, ashamed? (the judgment seat of Christ with rewards and disciplines is after we resurrect from Paradise).