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Originally Posted by Ohio
Excuse me ... hmmm ... have you been to Venezuela lately?
Until Hugo Chavez and folks like the "Squad" took over, Venezuela was the jewel of Central and South America.
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Irrelevant.
My point was not to agree with the far left of the Democratic party. It was to point out that the one of the biggest problems is the constant increase in deficit spending. I am sure that there being any of the Democrats really being willing to reign in overall spending while trying to implement any of these new proposals is roughly zero.
But while we (conservatives) like what the conservative side is spending too much money on, they are overspending just as much as the other side. We have roughly 3 decades of recent history to show this to be true. Deficit spending has increased steadily under all regimes.
My problem is that conservatism has failed to actually be conservatism, but has been usurped by reactionary dreamers (I could elaborate, but don't want to inflame anyone). Conservatism used to be seen as slow change with fiscal responsibility. But now it has turned into no change (or reverse course) but with little or no fiscal responsibility.
But when I look at the country, I see that there must be change. Not like AOC and the far left want. But simply digging-in and turning isolationist and mean is not the answer. I have so far been unable to go to the left of middle to find a moderate. Partly because there appears to be no moderates on either side (at least that are willing to step up and take part in the process).
I cannot stomach the way that the border is being politicized. There is something un-Christian in taking the position that people made in the image of God are simply to be vilified for seeking something better. Neither opening the border nor closing it or ranting about it is the answer. Opening it is not wise for purposes of economics and security. But speaking about and treating illegal immigrants (people, not vermin) in the way we are should be embarrassing to any Christian.
Something has to change. Neither Trump nor Bernie/Joe/Kamala, etc., are the answer. It is going to require something different. The recognition that guns and prisons are not the answer. That exorbitantly expensive universities that don't really focus on the students is not the answer. That cheap universities that can't hire qualified professors is not the answer. That neither open borders nor closed borders are the answer.
And that for the Christian, loving your neighbor as yourself is not found in protests against any of it Trump, Bernie, Kamala, immigrants, the border, Islam, gays, etc.
Politically, something not on either fence nearer to the middle is needed to reignite something that even might resemble the America that so many are pining for. It is not in fighting for a "Christian" America, creating a socialist utopia, or returning to some kind of "good old days" (that probably never existed). It is solving a border issue, finding things that we do not need to spend tax dollars on, reorganizing what we do spend our tax dollars on, etc.
And for the Christian, it is doing and saying whatever we do or say in love. Not just for ourselves, but for anyone who is hearing it or on the receiving end of the actions.
(And saying it in love is not like the old joke about nicknames for missiles. . . . "Hallmark, when you care to send the very best.")