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Originally Posted by Jo S
If you only knew of him, it's not impossible but if you truly know him it is impossible to be plucked from his hand.
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Jo, the kind of person you speak of I never thought of as a believer. I would have classified that one as a nominal Christian, or a tare. I have a loved one, a close relative, who claims to be a Christian, but when we discuss receiving the Holy Spirit, she claims Lutherans don't believe in that. We sometimes go round and round this aspect and whatever verses she disputes she cannot or will not even read aloud. Finally in exasperation one year she said it is her choice. That I felt was the first time she had been honest on the subject. You cannot reject receiving the Holy Spirit, reject the scriptural being born again, and be a saved, regenerated Christian. You can, however, deceive yourself into thinking you are a Christian.